The guy is sort of built like a middle distance or even distance runner...lean and lanky...what say you?
The guy is sort of built like a middle distance or even distance runner...lean and lanky...what say you?
Are you stupid? He's 6'1" 187 pounds according to wikipedia.
While he might be able to bust out a :58 400m or 18:00-19:00 5k, he's built nothing like a middle distance runner.
You're unable to judge this at all, obviously. Federer could for certain run a 52 second 400. I'm not sure about 5k, but I wouldn't be shocked if he could run 17 minutes. And as for his build, he is built a bit like Andrew Rock.
'Federer could for certain run a 52 second 400.'
No way - Roger Black an silver at the OG and a 44.37 guy. For a bet at the end of his yearly rest (few weeks), he was well outside 50 (it's in his autobiography if I can find it I'll post) something like 52 from memory
You are looking at guys running sub 45 and thinking 52 is easy. It's not its still bloody fast. No way without specific training is Federer running 52
In a superstar contest in the early 1980s, Björn Borg ran a 60 m race and he really sucked, and Borg was one of the fastest tennis players ever. When it comes to running, tennis players only need super fast accelerations. They are not trained to deal with acidosis, so they can´t run a fast 400.
When it comes to longer distances, tennis players need good general aerobic fitness, but I doubt they have really high Vo2max or running economy for the 5k.
Swede. wrote:
In a superstar contest in the early 1980s, Björn Borg ran a 60 m race and he really sucked, and Borg was one of the fastest tennis players ever. When it comes to running, tennis players only need super fast accelerations. They are not trained to deal with acidosis, so they can´t run a fast 400.
When it comes to longer distances, tennis players need good general aerobic fitness, but I doubt they have really high Vo2max or running economy for the 5k.
Not true. Running is a staple of many tennis player's conditioning program. Many do a couple miles a day and also do track work of 400s/800s.
RF could definitely run 18ish. He has a very light frame.
Swede. wrote:
In a superstar contest in the early 1980s, Björn Borg ran a 60 m race and he really sucked, and Borg was one of the fastest tennis players ever. When it comes to running, tennis players only need super fast accelerations. They are not trained to deal with acidosis, so they can´t run a fast 400.
When it comes to longer distances, tennis players need good general aerobic fitness, but I doubt they have really high Vo2max or running economy for the 5k.
A retired Borg ran 60m in 7.1 seconds (comparable to sub 11 for 100m) at TV Sports superstars meeting in 1983. Your comment that tennis players don't need endurance shows me you know nothing about tennis, much less about a 6-time FO champion.
With three months of specific training, he'd go 17:2X in the 5,000 meter.
Just to throw out another name, apparently Steffi Graf could run 800m off tennis training fast enough to consider switching sports.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/archive/index.php/t-49104.html
ukathleticscoach wrote:
'Federer could for certain run a 52 second 400.'
No way - Roger Black an silver at the OG and a 44.37 guy. For a bet at the end of his yearly rest (few weeks), he was well outside 50 (it's in his autobiography if I can find it I'll post) something like 52 from memory
You are looking at guys running sub 45 and thinking 52 is easy. It's not its still bloody fast. No way without specific training is Federer running 52
a lot of times you are spot-on, despite typing like you are drunk most of the time. This time you are wrong.
I can't say how fast Federer would be (that is speculation and can't be proven), but I know from tennis and running experience that the world's greatest tennis player would likely run faster than a good 9th-grade 400m runner (i.e. 54-57 seconds is what that would be).
My tennis coach is a good athlete overall and did a 10k on a whim once (no history of running) and went 39:10 -- and he was 35 at the time.
Does this mean Federer could? Don't know for sure, but I think many people NOT in top shape (like myself) can still run sub-60 without any running training, I know because I have done it several times. It seems like a world-class tennis player could run what we would consider fairly fast.
Got a great article about Federer's fitness, it says he could run 3300 meters in 12 minutes, and 9300 meters in 40 minutes.
Tennis requires mainly speed and agility. Off course also stamina, but without speed and great agility you can't be a professional there. So Federer is probably fast, but as to endurance and long distance or middle distance- ahh.. not a hobby jogger, but definitely not special
Andy Murray reckons he has run 400m in 52 seconds
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/20155716
If you could win any tournament/achievement in any other sport, which would it be?
"It would be cool to win the 100m at the Olympics and be the fastest man in the world. I never do 100m in training because there's a chance you could pull your hamstring, but I do 400m sometimes. The fastest I've done is about 52 seconds, which is reasonable but still a long, long way short of Olympic standard. To give you a bit of context, Mo Farah ran a 52 second lap in the 5000m final, but it was after he'd already run 4600m!"
altoroad wrote:
Just to throw out another name, apparently Steffi Graf could run 800m off tennis training fast enough to consider switching sports.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/archive/index.php/t-49104.html
Yes, I remember hearing commentators claim that she would have been capable of a sub 2 minute 800m with minimal training.
Imagine if Steffi had been born in the GDR?
Here's 35 year old Rod Laver crushing smoking Joe Frazier over the 100 yard dash :
Nobody said anything about yards, furlongs or any of the other measurements of ignorant medieval peasants.
These people never even left their villages to meet the other peasants from the other villages, so all their standards were based on how far the local oxen could pull a plow = one furlong. And it's all based on that. Miles, yards, feet, inches, all of it! It is ancient, primitive and useless. Join the enlightened age of science and reason.
As for 400 meters, I don't believe Murray or Federer could run anywhere near 52. To go that fast with no training requires naturally good sprinting form which is not common at all, probably much less if you're trained for something like tennis.
Roger has to be one of the fittest athletes ever no matter what he would run
Gotta bee wrote:
Roger has to be one of the fittest athletes ever no matter what he would run
I think he is just very talented, many tennis players are better athletes.
Federer is exempt from Swiss military service because he is considered unfit to serve.
True story.