The new Irish running prodigy has shown again how she's a class act....winning the European Youth Olympic 1500m in a front-running championship best performance (previously held by Gabriela Szabo) and new Irish Junior record of 4.15.46! So soon after getting a silver in the World Youth Championships in another junior record of 2.03.07!! And only turned 17 years of age this year!!!
Hasay's got nothing on her!
Too right...Hasay is overhyped!!!
Um, you know that Hasay had a faster PR than Ciara Mageean at 16 right...
Did she front run that PR by any chance? Mageean would run 4.10 right now if she was pushed..and has Hasay ran 2.03 low for 800????...Didnt think so!
Mageean will smoke Hasay. I'd put my house on it. You can't coach raw speed (what's Hasay's 800 PR?)which is what separates those who can time trial from those who can win close tactical championship races.
Btw, Ciara has been running for less than 3 years so there is plenty of room for further improvement.
Good Luck to her-not that she needs it...:)
Yes she did... Letsrun said so!
Irishboy wrote:
Mageean will smoke Hasay. I'd put my house on it. You can't coach raw speed (what's Hasay's 800 PR?)which is what separates those who can time trial from those who can win close tactical championship races.
Btw, Ciara has been running for less than 3 years so there is plenty of room for further improvement.
Good Luck to her-not that she needs it...:)
Well you were 100% correct. She absolutely smoked Hasay yesterday!
what are you talking about? wrote:
Um, you know that Hasay had a faster PR than Ciara Mageean at 16 right...
Maybe 16 was her peak then!
If memory serves, Hasey lost by over 4 seconds?
Prodigy my ass
Imagine how good she's be if she was trained in America like Hasey...
Hassay is a great athlete and will probably have a successful running career. However, give the current data Mageean shows far more promise.
Hassay has run very fast at a young age but has not made massive improvements in the past few years (a time when she should). I think her PR has maybe improved about 3 seconds over the last 3 years (correct me if I'm wrong). Most girls from 16-19 years of age should be making much larger improvements. She probably trained really intensely at a very young age which gave her such a competitive edge but now things are slowing down for her as everyone else is catching up.
Mageean on the other hand has huge potential with a 2:03 800m and now a 4:09 1500m. I think she may still be 17, if not a young 18. I think as far as raw talent Mageean is far more superior to Hassay.
Dear doggpound:
LRC has just made my point in their "the week that was".
See below or read it on the homepage.
Runner A Or Runner B? (World Juniors Talk)
Imagine for a minute that you are a college coach or an agent for a shoe company. Please tell us which athlete you'd want to sign - Athlete A or Athlete B.
Athlete A is 18 years old and has had the following progression:
2008 PR - 4:14.50 (plus 2:09.92)
2009 PR - 4:16.80 (plus 2:09.64)
2010 PR - 4:13.85
Athlete B is 18 years old and has had the following progression:
2008 PR - 4:21.2 (plus 2:07.48)
2009 PR - 4:15.46 (plus 2:03.07)
2010 PR - 4:09.51
In choosing between the two athletes, we feel that 100% of coaches/agents would much prefer to have athlete B. Athlete B's rate of improvement is much greater than Athlete A and Athlete B is much faster at 800 than athlete A. Well, athlete A is in actuality Jordan Hasay and Athlete B is Ciara Mageean.
"Who is Ciara Mageean?," you ask. She is an Irish athlete who earned a silver medal at the World Junior Championships last week in Canaday while Hasay continued to run well but finished fourth for the second straight World Juniors.
Hasay is an incredible athlete, but we've long cautioned people to not expect stardom for her at the senior level. Two years ago when Hasay was the darling of the Olympic Trials and finishing 4th at World Juniors as a 16-year-old, Mageean was running with no notoriety and finishing 10th at World Juniors, more than 7 seconds back of Hasay. Now she is significantly better than Hasay.
The fact of the matter is stardom at an early age doesn't necessarily mean much.
wow man i didnt read the week that was... and i have no idea who ciara mageean is... thanks for the copy and paste update. I was just saying she may plateau a bit now and in a few years shes gonna be balla as shitt and destroy dusty mageean
Athlete B does not have as much of an advantage as you'd think. B just had a major breakthrough, while Athlete A is well due for one.
Athlete A has a similar progression to Solinsky's and Rupp's before their big PR's this year. Solinsky ran 13:12, 13:18, 13:18 in '07, '08, and '09, and Rupp ran 27:33, 27:36, and 27:37 in those years, respectively.
They made big jumps just before those three-year stagnations.
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The championship races over those years kept lots of accumulating untapped potential.
One could argue that Athlete A has a better chance at a huge race next year than does Athlete B.
the way people talk about JH you would have thought she spent the entire year injured/going backwards. lol how long ago was it that she was praised high and low for her performance at indoor nationals? turds
Inks a 6-figure deal with New Balance. No college.
