gideon mageka runs 3:37.3 for 1500 at age 15

douglas burke wrote:

his date of birth is december 1993.

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I doubt that he is 15 but nevertheless 3.37 for WYC is an awesome time.

This "kid" will retire from athletics at the age of "twenty."

Regina.Jacobs wrote:

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Yup, I feel the same way whenever someone runs much faster than a white boy can. You and me need to drown our sorrows in some Florida moonshine and cry about the days white boys was the fastest on the planet.

lol at that age wrote:

This "kid" will retire from athletics at the age of "twenty."

Same as your IQ.

Regina.Jacobs wrote:

douglas burke wrote:

his date of birth is december 1993.

Hello there. I have some real estate in Florida I would like to sell you.

Wow!!!!!

Just give it up bloke, just give it up.

NativeSon wrote:

Wow!!!!!

Just give it up bloke, just give it up.

I don't give away the property for free. What kind of business model is that??

A sixteen year old Swede, Johan Rogestedt, wins the 800m Youth Gold in 1:50.92 (a personal best). HE was born on 27-01-1993.

http://www.iaaf.org/WYC09/news/newsid=51933.html

that is passport age

the guy may be in his late twenties.

The only wat Kenya can compete with our white sixteen year olds is to send 25 year olds.

Look lets not act like children here and start playing the race card (as usual) or whatever. It is what it is. SOME (not all) African nations are simply a little more "relaxed" on the dates of birth for their athletes (only important at WY or WJ level) and its just a fact of life. I agree, its a shame that it happens because for a lot of the kids going through the WY/WJ system it may be the only shot at global glory, but what can you do.

When I was at the world juniors in 2000 (Santiago) we were talking with a couple of Ethiopians and my buddy (a sprinter) was sort of angling at their ages and having a bit of fun with them and he just asks them straight up "so how old are you guys". The guy who could speak the better english finally clicks and goes "twenny-free" and my mate starts laughing and says something about World Juniors being for under twenties. The guys then click and in a made for tv moment his mate elbows him in the side, whispers something in Ethiopian and then he goes "aaahhhh nooo, eighteeeen - we eighteeeen".

The same championhsips I ran against some dude from Qatar called Muhammed Suleimann who actually got younger in the years to come. He was supposedly 18 in Chile and two years later in Kingston he was running as a 17 year old having also run in the first World Youths (under 18's) in the year in between.

The best story is of Belal Mansoor Ali aka John Yego, who ran in the Kenyan Olympic trials in 2000 and nearly made the team in the 800 meters then "became" Bahrainian. He then somehow won the world youths in 2005 as a 17 year old in 3.36 meaning he would have been all of 12/13 years old in 2000 when nearly beating out guys like Bungei/Mutua etc to make the Olympic team.

Bottom line is this. It DOES happen, it also TENDS to happen predominantly from African nations (Kenya and Ethiopia are the worse) but I honestly wouldnt go so far to suggest it is blantant age cheating (in the case of Muhammed Suleiman and John Yego yes), because the reality is a lot of the time those guys simply have no accurate record of when they are born, and yep, birthdates are essentially just made up.

Thus story is completely manufactured. Sad,sad,sad world you exist in.

I don't think all of the details are made up! You would have to be one gullible individual if you think all of the african's racing are youth. The thing is how do we equal the playing field?

you are certifiable! Why the hell would I make that up and where would I get ideas like that?

What don't you believe? - That I ran in a world junior championships? Or that I ran against a guy from Qatar? In fact, took me about 5min to find the prove the guy I am talking about was there. Okay "you got me" Muhammed Suleiman is actually Suleiman Abdulrahman. Wrong name, same story. Given that due to the way the IAAF age rules work out, most athletes that compete in the WJ's are 18 and WY's 16 - When I ran I was 18 turning 19 after the championships. With that in mind, Sulaiman Abdul Rahman I am guessing would have had to have been supposedly 15 going on 16 in 2000 to "legitimately" have done what he did. Plausible? - yes, Unlikely? - in MY opinion, highly.

WJC 2000 - 800m

Heat 1 - Tuesday, October 17, 2000 - 15:55

Pos Lane Bib Athlete Country Mark

1 6 264 Lacasse Florent FRA 1:51.05 Q

2 3 680 Sulaiman Abdul Rahman QAT 1:51.39 Q

a year later...

WYC 2001 - 1500m

Heat 1 - Friday, July 13, 2001 - 11:30

Pos Bib Athlete Country Mark

1 418 Songok Isaac KEN 3:38.34 Q (PB)

2 585 Suleiman Abdul Rahman QAT 3:51.22 Q

in fact, he even popped up at the next WJ's...

WJC 2002 - 1500m

Heat 2 - Friday, July 19, 2002 - 18:35

Pos Bib Athlete Country Mark

1 694 Suleiman Abdulrahman QAT 3:40.57 Q (PB)

2 529 Songok Isaac KEN 3:41.65 Q

The story about Belal Mansoor Ali is also true but you would actually have to be someone outside of a stupid little college twat with track and field knowledge limited to stories that appear on Dyestat to actually know it. This one is widely known. In fact, the wikipedia article doesn't spell it out word for word, but the "investigation" the IAAF is talking about is with regards to exactly what I wrote - Belal Mansoor Ali's participation in the Kenyan trials of 2000 as his former self John Yego.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belal_Mansoor_Ali

in fact, here is some more for you - he placed 6th in those trials...

http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/3/3_11/exkenyan-stars-face-iaaf-.shtml

enough for you you absolute muppet weasel?

oh yeah, and as for the Ethiopian story, well that also happened and I couldn't care less if you believe that or not. I went on an finished my career running in a World Juniors, an Olympic Games, World Championships and World Cup so I couldn't a flying f@*k what some little turd like you thinks.

Chris Pringle wrote:

oh yeah, and as for the Ethiopian story, well that also happened and I couldn't care less if you believe that or not. I went on an finished my career running in a World Juniors, an Olympic Games, World Championships and World Cup so I couldn't a flying f@*k what some little turd like you thinks.

could you tell us who you are?

Ur mom. wrote:

could you tell us who you are?

Did you choke on a turd or something on your way out?

Today I heard a 15 year old, did not see that photo, ran 3:37

and another 15 year old, did see that one ran 7:51

Now come on? Without the race card, I looked at the 7:51 guy and he looks at quick glance, as old as any guy I have seen in college let alone 15, as old as Lomong who is 24 at least and maybe as old as Rono used tolook in college.

At 15 this guy supposedly ran an equiv 8:30 two mile at least, is anyone supposed to get on board with that?

Jim Ryun was an even better phenom than either time wie at 18-19 and ran 3:38 equiv at 18 and 8:25 yards at 19 and 1;44.x

Trialswatcher wrote:

Jim Ryun was an even better phenom than either time wie at 18-19 and ran 3:38 equiv at 18 and 8:25 yards at 19 and 1;44.x

At age 19 jim ryan ran 1:44.9y and 3:51.3y. "3:38" equivalent my ass.

If some bible-thumbing liar from kansas could run those times 40 years ago, it shouldn't be a suprise that a kenyan kid could run just as fast at a younger age.