Phillips winning jump

Yes, he did scratch, but they missed it.

for it to be considered a foul, he would have had to have left an indentation on the plasticine. no mark = legal jump. it's an odd situation though. at a smaller meet that does use plasticine, that jump would've most likely been ruled a foul.

Why have we not entered the modern world and electonicly verify jump off points?

How would that necessarily be better than the plasticine?

study hall wrote:

at a smaller meet that does use plasticine, that jump would've most likely been ruled a foul.

**smaller meet that does not use plasticine**

That is incorrect. You can have a foul called with leaving a mark in the plasticine. I have seen it on a couple of occasions. A fraction of the toe can break the plane and not mark the plasticine.

study hall wrote:

for it to be considered a foul, he would have had to have left an indentation on the plasticine. no mark = legal jump. it's an odd situation though. at a smaller meet that does use plasticine, that jump would've most likely been ruled a foul.

I meant WITHOUT leaving a mark in the plasticine.

Check your rules!

IAAF 2009 Rule 185 p. 177-8:

1. An athlete fails if:

(a) he while taking off, touches the ground beyond the take-off line with any part of his body...

NCAA 2009-2010 Rule 6-7-3 p. 97:

It shall be a foul jump and not measured if:

a. The takeoff foot (shoe) extends beyond the foul line;

NCAA is different so that plasticine is not necessary.

I have seen it with my own eyes. The jumper was arguing with the official because there was no mark in the plasticine. The announcers (no it wasn't Carol, Ato, or Dwight) were pointing out that the official said that the plasticine was a help, not the final word on the foul.

Now, that may have been the official not knowing the rule. I will say that the rule in the IAAF rule book sounds like you have to make a mark in the plasticine.

That's probably what the rule should be. Meaning that you can't touch any part of the ground beyond the line but if any part of you breaks the vertical plain, including a sticky-out bit of shoe, then that's ok.

It's time to go back to the 80's where Carl Lewis had a monster jumped that approached 30 feet. Clearly past the 9M mark (29'6")

There was plasticine which he did not break but the official gave him a foul saying his toe was over the line.

Judges discretion cost him the World Record which he was never able to get.

I think video analysis proved it to be in the 8.80 range. Still a monster though.

I've seen the video and tried to find it online but couldn't. I have it somewhere in the house on VHS.

I did find a few articles including wikipedia that talked about the alleged 30 foot jump.

8.80 isn't even 29 feet.

We might as well call it 31 feet. It is all legend now.

I can't find the video anymore either, it used to be on youtube. Apparently he had a couple of monster fouls that day, I've only seen one. I wish the officials had just measured them anyway for posterity.