His 800 PR is 1:47.68 from last years Junior Nationals. The record is 1:46.45 by Michael Granville, 5/31/96. One would think in a fast field he has a shot but if he loses contact it could hurt him.
Here's a video of the 1:47.68 for good measure:
http://www.milesplit.us/videos/4459?id=4457
He swings wide with 200 to go and doesn't let up, pretty impressive. I think he could do it.
Hard to say, I think he's only been under 1:49 twice and under 1:48 once, but coming from northwestern Oregon he probably doesn't have a whole lot of great chances to blaze speed.
m smythe wrote:
Hard to say, I think he's only been under 1:49 twice and under 1:48 once, but coming from northwestern Oregon he probably doesn't have a whole lot of great chances to blaze speed.
True. He jogged his state 800 and won in 1:59 something. I guess no one wanted to take it out and be made a fool of.
1:59 to win a state championship? Boys?
Greer had won the 1500 in 3:50.xx earlier and had the 4x400 to run later in the meet. He let the others set the pace in the 800. It was very slow - 63 for the leader at 400. Greer came through 400 at the back of the pack and then dusted the field in the last 300.
No shot.
on the runs wrote:
1:59 to win a state championship? Boys?
No, he was racing chicks at the state meet.
cats and the cradle wrote:
I didn;t know Greer was white. Now I hope he gets the record.
Seriously? Nobody else had a problem with this?
He certainly has a shot. He set the JR class record (not Junior as in "under 19" but Junior as in 2nd to last year in high school) last year and hasn't been in a competitive 800m yet this season. If he doesn't get the record at Pre, he'll at least be close.
for real? wrote:
cats and the cradle wrote:I didn;t know Greer was white. Now I hope he gets the record.
Seriously? Nobody else had a problem with this?
Be serious Real. Everyone had a problem with this. Only, everyone else knew Cats was just trolling.
Please don't feed the trolls.
Its not the same...Granville held all the national class 800m records for freshman through senior and ran every one of them in a HS race against HS kids. I personally witnessed his 1:46 at the 1996 Ca state meet. He ran it in the trials.
Although I would certainly think it fantastic if Greer broke the record it is not quite the same running against a non HS field. Granville had to basically do a time trial as second place in his 1:46 race was 1:53ish so he was away from the field after 100m and on his own after that.
Heard through the grapevine wrote:
He certainly has a shot. He set the JR class record (not Junior as in "under 19" but Junior as in 2nd to last year in high school) last year and hasn't been in a competitive 800m yet this season. If he doesn't get the record at Pre, he'll at least be close.
He ran his 1:48 at the Oregon Twilight in a non-winning effort. That's the one competitive 800 he's been in this year. Whether or not he gets the record, I don't know, but I have to think he has a shot.
hopefully he's been running some good 400's. one thing that obviously helps trying to hit a mark is getting calloused near that pace, but as has been mentioned, he hasn't run a race closer than 2 seconds of what he'll need to hit. but i think that was the same case last year when he popped his 1:47 so here's to hoping he gets it! he should most likely be on pace for it a 400 so hopefully he'll hold strong. more importantly hopefully he has more left to give in college.
Another topic on here mentioned Greer's recent 1:16 time trial for 600m which would indicate that he's at least capable of running the needed pace for most of an 800m. I had forgotten about his Oregon Twilight race.
I think if he doesn't break the record he at least gets close to it. He could pull an Alan Webb (meaning the old high school version) and find himself pulled by the Pre crowd to easily surpass the old record.
he's running at the Pre classic supposedly, so that will be plenty fast for him
I too wonder how he will do in college. One thing is for sure, he picked the right college for an 800/1500 meter runner. He will be running with Mac Fleet, Andrew Wheating, and Matt Centrowitz. I think this is the perfect set up for him, and he won't be expected to do it all when he arrives...there are others who can share the pressure to perform.
Funny to think a potential national record holder could come in and be 3rd wheel... Probably best he doesn't have to come in and be the man.
justjabbin wrote:
Its not the same...Granville held all the national class 800m records for freshman through senior and ran every one of them in a HS race against HS kids. I personally witnessed his 1:46 at the 1996 Ca state meet. He ran it in the trials.
Although I would certainly think it fantastic if Greer broke the record it is not quite the same running against a non HS field. Granville had to basically do a time trial as second place in his 1:46 race was 1:53ish so he was away from the field after 100m and on his own after that.
I was lucky enough to see Granville's race at the CA State Meet as well.
As stated, Granville did it in the trials. While I had no one in the race I split my watch as Granville went thru 200m. I don't recall the exact split, but suffice to say that it was monstrously fast, particularly in light of it being a prelim.
I began to yell to anyone around me - on the backside, near the 200m start - that Granville was running fast, REALLY fast. He went through 400m equally impressively and, still, few people seemed to understand what was happening. By 600m it was clear that he wasn't about to let up - and he might get the record. It was about then that the race announcer and the crowd seemed to pick up on the fact that the National Record was in jeopardy.
Of course, he got the record, but the majority of the crowd had little idea that it was happening; given that I'm typically an idiot, it was sheer luck that I caught on early - but it's one of my great memories of track and field.
Interestingly, he narrowly won the final the next day in 1:50 point.
frankie out.
justjabbin wrote:
Its not the same...Granville held all the national class 800m records for freshman through senior and ran every one of them in a HS race against HS kids. I personally witnessed his 1:46 at the 1996 Ca state meet. He ran it in the trials.
Although I would certainly think it fantastic if Greer broke the record it is not quite the same running against a non HS field. Granville had to basically do a time trial as second place in his 1:46 race was 1:53ish so he was away from the field after 100m and on his own after that.
I was lucky enough to see Granville's race at the CA State Meet as well.
As stated, Granville did it in the trials. While I had no one in the race I split my watch as Granville went thru 200m. I don't recall the exact split, but suffice to say that it was monstrously fast, particularly in light of it being a prelim.
I began to yell to anyone around me - on the backside, near the 200m start - that Granville was running fast, REALLY fast. He went through 400m equally impressively and, still, few people seemed to understand what was happening. By 600m it was clear that he wasn't about to let up - and he might get the record. It was about then that the race announcer and the crowd seemed to pick up on the fact that the National Record was in jeopardy.
Of course, he got the record, but the majority of the crowd had little idea that it was happening; given that I'm typically an idiot, it was sheer luck that I caught on early - but it's one of my great memories of track and field.
Interestingly, he narrowly won the final the next day in 1:50 point.
frankie out.
justjabbin wrote:
Its not the same...Granville held all the national class 800m records for freshman through senior and ran every one of them in a HS race against HS kids. I personally witnessed his 1:46 at the 1996 Ca state meet. He ran it in the trials.
Although I would certainly think it fantastic if Greer broke the record it is not quite the same running against a non HS field. Granville had to basically do a time trial as second place in his 1:46 race was 1:53ish so he was away from the field after 100m and on his own after that.
I was lucky enough to see Granville's race at the CA State Meet as well.
As stated, Granville did it in the trials. While I had no one in the race I split my watch as Granville went thru 200m. I don't recall the exact split, but suffice to say that it was monstrously fast, particularly in light of it being a prelim.
I began to yell to anyone around me - on the backside, near the 200m start - that Granville was running fast, REALLY fast. He went through 400m equally impressively and, still, few people seemed to understand what was happening. By 600m it was clear that he wasn't about to let up - and he might get the record. It was about then that the race announcer and the crowd seemed to pick up on the fact that the National Record was in jeopardy.
Of course, he got the record, but the majority of the crowd had little idea that it was happening; given that I'm typically an idiot, it was sheer luck that I caught on early - but it's one of my great memories of track and field.
Interestingly, he narrowly won the final the next day in 1:50 point.
frankie out.