former mile WR holder during WWII.
former mile WR holder during WWII.
I'm sure he was a fine person and a great athlete, but sports records set during Jim Crow and U.S / European world wide imperialism are considered invalid.
I thought this was about Arn Anderson, he of legendary wrestling fame! Nice to see The Four Horsemen are still around!
And everything since 1956 can be discounted because of the drug abuse. So I would think there are no valid records. Correct?
I am surprised to learn he was still around RIP now, Arne
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
I thought this was about Arn Anderson, he of legendary wrestling fame! Nice to see The Four Horsemen are still around!
i SECOND THAT COMMENT, DIDN'T THINK HE WAS THAT OLD.
it is really sad if people don't know about the great races between andersson and hagg. how can you be a fan of the sport without knowing such a big part of it's history?
sucks the cat wrote:
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:I thought this was about Arn Anderson, he of legendary wrestling fame! Nice to see The Four Horsemen are still around!
i SECOND THAT COMMENT, DIDN'T THINK HE WAS THAT OLD.
Ole, on the other hand, has to be that old now.
Andersson said the goal was always to beat Hagg et al., but that if they'd cooperated to break 4 minutes, he said they could've done it.
My dad coached XC and track for 35 years from 1955 to 1990, and I was fortunate to inherit his collection of running books. My favorite is "The Lonely Breed", a collection of short stories written by Ron Clarke with Norman Harris about some of the historical moments in our great sport.
Seeing Arne Andersson's name reminded me of reading about him in this book. There's a picture of Andersson running in the forest with the following caption: "Arne Andersson of the big chest and the big voice, who loved to run in the forest, and then file his spikes needle-sharp and RACE."
What a fitting epitaph for a great runner.
doyouknowwhatabalmdoes wrote:
a big part of it's history?
"its"
doyouknowwhatabalmdoes wrote:
it is really sad if people don't know about the great races between andersson and hagg. how can you be a fan of the sport without knowing such a big part of it's history?
I knew all about him and Gunter Haag, reading their history in the great book by Robert Q. They proably would have broken 4 minutes 10-12 years before Bannister if not for the upheavls in Europe and Hitler's disruptive WW2 machine.
I am actually very surprised to know that he had still been alive, to be honest. Figure he died decades ago.
Gundar Hagg and Arne Andersson inspired me from the time I started running races in high school. I read of them in How They Train by Fred Wilt, and other books of the time, along with whatever I could find about Paavo Nurmi and John Landy. I was a sponge for reading every tidbit about them and they still inspire me as much as anyone else.
djäveln wrote:
some video
http://svtplay.se/v/1506524/arne_andersson_ar_dod
That's an amazingly clear video from that time! Thanks!
Andersson said that had he and Hagg cooperated to break 4 minutes in the mile instead of just merely trying to beat each other, they could have done it "hur enkelt som helst"(as easily as anything).
Another shorter lived rivalry than that with Haegg was between Sydney Wooderson the mile record holder before WW2. There were 2 races in 1945 with Anderson winning both relatively close races after Woodersod had done little racing because of the war.
Whoops! wrote:
doyouknowwhatabalmdoes wrote:a big part of it's history?
"its"
The original is correct.