Oregon paper calls out Letsrun over "wheels fell off" comment.

another instance of the Brojo's hating on Salazar and Co.

Her wheels did come off; Mr. Binder apparently missed Salazar's hype, who hinted that Goucher could go for the world record before the race despite her actual finish well off the current record.

sucks the cat wrote:

The final kilometer was almost assuredly not accurately measured. It was about 30 seconds (150-160 meters) too long, as evidenced by almost every runner in the field. The top men in the race were going 2:47-per-kilometer and yet the final split was timed in 3:03.

Wow the men covered the last 160 meters at a pace of 40 seconds for 400 meters!!!!

This has to be the fastest finish ever!!

Goucher ran 3:40 from the 20k to the finish.

that is 3:20/kilo pace

the 2nd place finisher ran marginally faster

brojos and binder are both wrong

wait a second, she ran around the airport? wow, runners really are extreme dorks. hahahaha

Both parties are wrong, its Alice Timbilili.

Split times reported on a live telecast were wrong throughout. Perhaps that's what Letsrun.com was using as its source

I doubt this is an example of Letsrun "Oregon/Salazar" bashing. The split times were wrong and Letsrun came to the wrong conclusion. So rather that the "wheels coming off", it was a case of the "wheels" not going quite as fast as was predicted. Still a good run for Kara though.

Very good facts and your point is well taken. Wejo and Brojo apparently enjoy creating fictional sports journalism better than giving us facts.

They've obviously been watching how espn reports news and thought that was the way it is supposed to be done.

1 27 50 KARA GOUCHER,

7.5 km split 00:25:03, avg 5:22 per mile, 3:20 per km

17.5 km split 00:55:09, avg 5:04 per mile, 3:09 per km

Did she just run 10km in 30:06? Highly suspect!

avg 4:50 per mile, 3:00 per km, call me a doubting Thomas

20 km split 01:04:49, avg 5:12 per mile, 3:14 per km

01:08:29 01:08:30, avg 5:13 per mile, 3:14 per km

last 1.11km in 3:41 is 5:31 per mile pace, 3:25 per km

Alice in 2nd ran the last 1.11km in 3:38,

not a big difference or a big deal.

150 to 160 meters long?

Why?

21,097.5 meters (21.11km) should only be 21 to 22 meters long for record purposes.

And how hard would it have been to do something like

5km, 10km, 15km, 20km split mats or clocks?

I wish her (K.G.) the best in Boston next month.

I think what letsrun was trying to point out, was the rather cocky pre-race assurance by AlSal and Kara that the WR would fall. When you go into it like that, and then miss the mark by three minutes...well, expect criticism

whateveryousay wrote:

I think what letsrun was trying to point out, was the rather cocky pre-race assurance by AlSal and Kara that the WR would fall. When you go into it like that, and then miss the mark by three minutes...well, expect criticism

if you want to criticize, fine. if you want to go after her for not coming close the the wr that ALSal referenced, then do it - say something like, "so much for a record." don't invent a ridiculous split. criticize with actual facts. otherwise you just end up looking like a t00l.

Typical letrun argument where people take each others statements too seriously...I hope the Goucher fans didn't go to the bathroom weeping when they saw "wheels fall off" and I hope the Brojo defenders didn't get a heart-attack.

I don't know a thing about journalism but I think its pretty child-like for someone to write a defensive article about statements from a messageboard...like it was some huge deal. I won't be surprised if the subject of his next article attacks some punk that picked on him back in grade school.

ok..................... wrote:

wait a second, she ran around the airport? wow, runners really are extreme dorks. hahahaha

Don't know if this is what she did, but there's a very nice gym in the Hilton at Chicago O'Hare (hotel attaches to airport). When you're traveling all day, it makes sense to find a way to get in your run (or two).

journalism school wrote:

I don't know a thing about journalism but I think its pretty child-like for someone to write a defensive article about statements from a messageboard...like it was some huge deal. I won't be surprised if the subject of his next article attacks some punk that picked on him back in grade school.

Agreed. Binder obviously can't get his point across on these boards, so he prints an article in the newspaper?? (Are those things still around?) What a tool. Next time I disagree with something Rojo says, I'm going to write a letter to the editor!

journalism school wrote:

I don't know a thing about journalism but I think its pretty child-like for someone to write a defensive article about statements from a messageboard...like it was some huge deal. I won't be surprised if the subject of his next article attacks some punk that picked on him back in grade school.

It's pathetic enough to watch the local news and how they interview random bozos on the street about issues, but even worse is when articles take quotes from message boards. Last week I actually encountered an article that cited comments on a YouTube clip

Lazy and full of . . . chutzpah for sure. Binder is embarrassed because he originally filed a report based on nohting more than a quick read of the LetsRun story, albeit without attribution. Then he "updated" that report when posters on the "Kara at Lisbon" thread pointed out that the splits were whack.

Now he has the gonads to write a second story criticizing LetsRun without admitting that it was his own laziness and sloppiness that got him in trouble in the first place.

Link to his previous "reporting"

http://www.oregonlive.com/trackandfield/index.ssf/2009/03/a_win_but_no_record_for_kara_g.html

When I wanted to do a run at, I think, the Phoenix airport, they wouldn't let me go outside to do it because I would have to go through security again, etc. How'd she do it?