The kid has balls.
Big ones.
The kid has balls.
Big ones.
And wins it.
I never rooted for the guy, but f***, he's really f***in' good.
He (and the others) need to relax with the hand signs and 'shout outs.' They are white (runners) and currently reside in Eugene, Oregon.
I thought the whole Duck DMR team showed class minus Acosta.
what did acosta do?
WEJO and ROJO what do you say now?
Get over it wrote:
WEJO and ROJO what do you say now?
Absolutely. I think Rupp could have won any event from mile - 5K (and obviously bring home the win on the DMR) WITH fernandez in the meet.
He's ready for a 1500/BIG mile this summer.
These guys are having fun winning, obviously you're not.
Don't watch the TV coverage because you're bound to see it again, this was THE event.
give the man his due wrote:
Absolutely. I think Rupp could have won any event from mile - 5K (and obviously bring home the win on the DMR) WITH fernandez in the meet.
He's ready for a 1500/BIG mile this summer.
...let's not get carried away. how soon we forget a solo collegiate record 3:55 low because of a 3:58 mid with a team championship on the line and some of the best milers in the country surrounding you
Great performance from Rupp, I'm a big fan of him. But he's an Olympic caliber runner and will probably run 13:0x this summer, so his performance today wasn't entirely unexpected.
And let's not get carried away with his mile prowess. He would lose to Fernandez, who has also outkicked both Coe and Ulrey this season, as well as a 3:55 (completely solo) which is a 3:53.5 1600, not including the fact that relay splits are quicker. Fernandez is well suited for DMR anchor legs as he doesn't need to pace of anybody.
Also, I think Wheating would beat Rupp in the mile.
But yes, Rupp is dominant at 3k (German could challenge) and up, considering how easily he dropped Chelanga.
who sets the rules? wrote:
These guys are having fun winning, obviously you're not.
Don't watch the TV coverage because you're bound to see it again, this was THE event.
I have fun winning while still managing to not make an ass out of myself. I'm sure you regularly throw up the omega sign when crossing the finish line at your local community day 5k.
pvk wrote:
Great performance from Rupp, I'm a big fan of him. But he's an Olympic caliber runner and will probably run 13:0x this summer, so his performance today wasn't entirely unexpected.
And let's not get carried away with his mile prowess. He would lose to Fernandez, who has also outkicked both Coe and Ulrey this season, as well as a 3:55 (completely solo) which is a 3:53.5 1600, not including the fact that relay splits are quicker. Fernandez is well suited for DMR anchor legs as he doesn't need to pace of anybody.
Also, I think Wheating would beat Rupp in the mile.
But yes, Rupp is dominant at 3k (German could challenge) and up, considering how easily he dropped Chelanga.
I don't care how fast German solos. That's the whole point, it was a solo perfectly paced race. Championships are totally different. I don't think he'd shake Rupp by leading and he's never shown the kind of finishing kick that Rupp has.
54.5 close to a 3:58.5 mile AFTER closing in 1:55 on a 5K? Rupp could go under 3:55 and if you don't think so than remember everything else people said he couldn't do. Listen to Ulrey's interview.
Fact is German chose not to be here to win when it mattered. Look at all the guys/dmr teams who ran much faster mid season, even a week ago who couldn't hold up hear.
Rupp is the KING of clutch. Goddamn, imagine the pressure of ASKING to run the DMR anchor against a guy who already outkicked you and outpaced you by 4 seconds in this very event earlier in the season, and a Fresh Coe who has also shown very good finishing speed.
Remember, German only beat COE by tenths of a second after sitting on him at UW. And that was the race that got Coes confidence going.
I'm not saying Galen could win the mile hands down, but I am saying he could win it, and that German also could not win it hands down.
And ultimately, if all were in it and not doubling or tripling, my money would be on Wheating though he wouldn't want to spot Rupp too much.
As for the 3K, that's easily Rupp's with German fighting for second with Coe like before.
German should run a great freshman time for 5K this spring, but Rupp is in a different class.
as a point of reference, this is not a super dangerous kick
http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view_video/234784-2009-ncaa-d1-indoor-championships/161930-mens-dmr-final-2-lapsthis is after a 5K, Coe Fresh, Ulrey 4:04 mile.
I'm not slamming German and he may indeed be able to win it, but I'm not convinced. Webb had the AR in the mile and a pr in the 800 the year Lagat won gold in Osaka. It's all about showing up on championship day.
German will have more chances but something to consider, wheating may move up to 1500/mile soon and chelanga will continue to improve. he's already a 13:19 5K guy on the boards and capable of a good 3K. And you never know who else comes along from across the seas or right here at home.
Which brings up another point, NCAA cross country should be interesting. Sammy out alone with German trying to catch him?
How did this become an "German is not that good" thread?
Good job.
pvk wrote:
He would lose to Fernandez, who has also outkicked both Coe and Ulrey this season, as well as a 3:55 (completely solo) which is a 3:53.5 1600, not including the fact that relay splits are quicker. Fernandez is well suited for DMR anchor legs as he doesn't need to pace of anybody.
German is a little punk, he couldn't hang against Rupp in championship anything, 800 on up.
Rupp 3 German 0 seems like the choke artist avoided the real race again... congrats on winning by 10seconds against who? Because last time I checked PR's dont matter unless they're WRs, its about winning a RACE, not RUNNING a TT...
German did run a Junior WR in the indoor mile........
hahahaha, you are a riot. thanks for linking a video of a 3000m where german ran hard enough to get the win as evidence that he doesn't have a kick in the mile. really relevant.
and whats better, you honestly think that it is easier to run 3:55 solo than 3:58.5 with one of the best milers in the country setting the pace for you, for 1200m.
THEN you compare it to the webb/lagat matchup. and i nearly bust a gut laughing.
please, please, keep posting
cant believe the BS wrote:
I don't care how fast German solos. That's the whole point, it was a solo perfectly paced race. Championships are totally different. I don't think he'd shake Rupp by leading and he's never shown the kind of finishing kick that Rupp has.
Where did German run his collegiate record mile again? At the Big-12 CHAMPIONSHIPS. It doesn't matter that it's NCAAs; if German thinks no one can run as fast as him in a time trial, then he'll set the pace from the gun and dare everyone to keep up. Who says he has to run with the pack 'cause it's a championship?
54.5 close to a 3:58.5 mile AFTER closing in 1:55 on a 5K? Rupp could go under 3:55 and if you don't think so than remember everything else people said he couldn't do. Listen to Ulrey's interview. [/quote]
I'm not sure what fallacy this is, but I guarantee it is one. "People said German couldn't break Nelson's record, but he did. Remember that when you don't believe me that he'll be the first man under 3 in the mile." And Yes, Rupp could run 3:54 for a mile right now.
Fact is German chose not to be here to win when it mattered. Look at all the guys/dmr teams who ran much faster mid season, even a week ago who couldn't hold up hear. [/quote]
This race doesn't matter ... to him. His team can not compete for a title and if the individual championships aren't as important as Worlds to him, why should he run them?
Rupp is the KING of clutch. Goddamn, imagine the pressure of ASKING to run the DMR anchor against a guy who already outkicked you and outpaced you by 4 seconds in this very event earlier in the season, and a Fresh Coe who has also shown very good finishing speed. [/quote]
Yes.
Remember, German only beat COE by tenths of a second after sitting on him at UW. And that was the race that got Coes confidence going. [/quote]
Closed in 3:00, led most of the race, was sick.
I'm not saying Galen could win the mile hands down, but I am saying he could win it, and that German also could not win it hands down. [/quote]
Agreed.
And ultimately, if all were in it and not doubling or tripling, my money would be on Wheating though he wouldn't want to spot Rupp too much. [/quote]
Not after his 800 leg last night. Didn't look supremely strong to me.
As for the 3K, that's easily Rupp's with German fighting for second with Coe like before. [/quote]
Would be as much of a fight as the mile.
German should run a great freshman time for 5K this spring, but Rupp is in a different class.
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Probably, but we'll see.
Catch Me If You Can, you are always pretty reasonable with your logic.
A couple things though. You thought wheating didn't look that strong last night? Were you referring to his prelim or his dmr leg?
I don't know how much you've watched wheating run, but he gave far less than 100%, and that is not one of those overstatements like "when German ran 3:56 he was jogging."
Wheating is a 1:45.0 guy (last year) and he really can "jog" 1:48 and 1:49. He can actually jog 1:47 for the first 650 meters, that's when he will typically turn it up and drop it down to 1:47. He had no reason to drop it last night and it was obvious.
I'm not going to delve into the German thing, because I think Rupp and the Oregon boys deserve to keep this about them.
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