Yet another men's track team gets the axe
Spring 2010 Men's Track will be cut. The press release was silent on whether indoor track remains. Women's track will not be cut:
"As part of the University’s budget deliberations for next year and beyond, three of its NCAA Division I intercollegiate athletic programs – men’s golf, men’s outdoor track and women’s volleyball – will be discontinued effective at the end of the 2008-09 academic year. At the same time the cheerleading program will be elevated to a competitive, varsity status.
All athletics programs were reviewed within the context of conference, NCAA and federal guidelines. The review considered projected cost savings, facility and scheduling issues, gender equity and programs’ competitive aspirations.
“It was an extremely difficult decision. A variety of scenarios were explored to continue to provide gender-equitable and competitive opportunities for the greatest number of male and female student-athletes in these fiscally challenging times,” said Jack McDonald, director of athletics and recreation. “The student-athletes, coaches and staff associated with all of the affected programs have continually represented Quinnipiac in the highest manner possible, both on and off the field of competition. We will, of course, honor existing scholarship agreements with those student-athletes affected by the changes and who choose to remain at Quinnipiac.”
These athletics budget reductions are in addition to previously announced decisions to freeze senior management salaries, freeze, and in some cases, eliminate a number of planned faculty and administrative searches, and to reduce virtually all operating budgets by 5%. A broader salary freeze for all administrators and faculty also is under consideration."
Quinnipiac Men's Track Cut
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If it wasn't bad enough, cheerleading is being elevated to a competitive, varsity sport.
There's a kick in the junk for ya -
I was unaware that cheerleading was considered a sport. If they get rid of more real sports, they can elevate the student section to varsity status next. Of course, no one would have anything to cheer for anymore.
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If it wasn't bad enough, cheerleading is being elevated to a competitive, varsity sport.
There's a kick in the junk for ya -
They shouldda made a poll first ;)
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Oh no, cackalackee state dropped their program. Anything but that!
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you heard it from him wrote:
If it wasn't bad enough, cheerleading is being elevated to a competitive, varsity sport.
There's a kick in the junk for ya
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Have you ever watched competitive cheerleading on ESPN? That is some serious stuff. These are serious gymnasts. These people do hard flying flips, moves and even high impact aerobic routines. If you don't like seeing nice tight-body girls dripping with sweat while flying through the air and bending their legas over their head, then what do you like? -
Butter butt wrote:
If you don't like seeing nice tight-body girls dripping with sweat while flying through the air and bending their legas over their head, then what do you like?
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First of all it's Quinnipiac for god's sake. Do they even have a track program? Certainly not one that anyone takes seriously. (Including the school obviously) Jack is a former 4:00 minute miler that was one of the founding members of GBTC so he should take his track seriously. The obvious goals of this program since he took over was to develop a competitive Basketball and Hockey program and to stay somewhat competitive in baseball. Elevate the school to DI. Everything else at that school is just gravy.
Over priced, overrated in every regard. -
ray wrote:
First of all it's Quinnipiac for god's sake. Do they even have a track program? Certainly not one that anyone takes seriously.
Obviously you're referring only to their men's program. The women have a terrific xc team. Maybe not as strong in t&f, but their women's distance program is pretty good. -
What did you say? wrote:
Obviously you're referring only to their men's program. The women have a terrific xc team. Maybe not as strong in t&f, but their women's distance program is pretty good.
Sorry I thought it said MEN'S TRACK. Secondly, their Women's Cross country program is OK, it's not "pretty good."
How many trips to nationals in the last 20 years? How many All-Americans? That's what makes a program "pretty good." -
Thanks for the sarcasm and apathy folks.
The reality of the matter is that it is a track program that focuses solely on distance events, therefore most likely costing about 15-25k.
The school has no football team, so it makes absolutely no sense to be cutting track either for Title 9 or financial reasons. On top of this, while the Men's XC and Track teams at Quinnipiac are average at best, they still have won their conference in cross country 4 out of the last 5 years. Thus, the administration is being incredibly short sighted cutting track (because from what I've heard winning Conference XC championships is important to them), and this will not happen anymore because it will lose all its solid runners without a track program.
Hopefully, the program will reverse the decision or decide to cut indoor instead of outdoor track, as there are many solid distance programs without official indoor track seasons/conferences (ie. William and Mary). -
What happens to the guys who commited to go there to run?On Dyestat the listing of signees for Quinnipiac has 4 boys commited to go there. Could be kind of late to hussle and get in somewhere else.
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Butter butt wrote:
Have you ever watched competitive cheerleading on ESPN? That is some serious stuff. These are serious gymnasts. These people do hard flying flips, moves and even high impact aerobic routines. If you don't like seeing nice tight-body girls dripping with sweat while flying through the air and bending their legas over their head, then what do you like?
You must be some track fan to justify varsity cheerleading over ANY kind of track program. I'd expect that crap at LetsCheer.com, but seriously, you don't care at all about the welfare of track across the country? I'd rather know that there are 10 sh*tbum track teams out there competing then 1 varsity cheerleading team.
I'll take a guess and say all of those teams you see on ESPN are from schools with BIG TIME football programs. That is because those cheerleading teams cheer at FOOTBALL games. QU cheerleaders do a halftime show for empty arenas during the terrible QU bball team's homegames. Whoop-de-do.
You can be apathetic toward average distance teams getting the ax all you want, but you gotta understand this kind of thing does very little to help the overall health of track & field in the US. I know I wouldn't be happy if 15 years from now there was only be Big 10 schools left competing in track. You'd sure as hell have a competitive conference meet, but you'd see very few HS kids excited about track. -
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ray wrote:
Sorry I thought it said MEN'S TRACK. Secondly, their Women's Cross country program is OK, it's not "pretty good."
How many trips to nationals in the last 20 years? How many All-Americans? That's what makes a program "pretty good."
Yes, it did say men's track. That's why I prefaced my reply with "Obviously".
As for being "pretty good," I'd say winning their conference and placing at the top of multiple invitationals makes them just that. I'd describe teams that go to nationals as "very good", if not "excellent." -
The AD's thinking probably is that they will continue with xcountry and then had to choose between dropping indoor track or dropping outdoor track. He (and I bet with the track coach's input) decided to keep indoor track because in the Northeast there is a greater number of quality regional competitions available than there are outdoor track meets.
No doubt the elevation of cheerleading to varsity status has to do with satisfying Title IX quotas. Remember, colleges are now frequently 60% female, meaning that the athletic department needs to devote 60% of its resources to women sports in such cases. -
nameless wrote:
No doubt the elevation of cheerleading to varsity status has to do with satisfying Title IX quotas. Remember, colleges are now frequently 60% female, meaning that the athletic department needs to devote 60% of its resources to women sports in such cases.
Cheerleading is a co-ed sport at most colleges.
If this is about titlel IX, then why did women's volleyball also get the axe? -
Good point - I didn't catch that.
My first guess is that there is a dollar component as well and that women's volleyball might be more expensive.
Title IX calls for propotionate numbers in the athletic department as in general student body. Maybe (and I'm only guessing here) by dropping men's outdoor track and keeping either volleyball or cheerleading the number component came out right. Then - maybe - cheerleading was selected because it is cheaper than volleyball and compliments the basketball and hockey teams, which are so-called priority sports.
That's a lot of maybes and guess work on my part, so the facts may not be well served. -
How does cheerleading compliment Hockey? Can't say I've ever seen cheerleaders at a Hockey game.
