can anyone identify this common running flaw

Does he do this all the time? This photo is at the end of a hard 10k and he is currently throwing it all in. Perhaps the flaw is taking place because he is kicking and fatigued. Just a thought, maybe he does do this all the time.

The rotation occurs post-toe-off.

Didn't Megan Kaltenbach have a problem like this?

http://www.donnabaldwin.com/female/female_4pics.asp?FirstName=Megan&LastName=Kaltenbach

http://www.fast-women.com/photos/footlocker01/foot37.jpg

Adductor is driving too hard, probably because of pronation or misaligned hips and weak or disengaged hip flexor and glute. Strength work on the hip/glute is the key.

"toe OFF"

ur stupid wrote:

"toe OFF"

Your point?

I think the twisting is due to the femur is slanted in the hip joint(since birth). I am no doctor but he basically is limited on his range to rotate the left leg outward. Its the same thing as pigeon toe, I guess its more common in women? Notice its only his left leg? That leads me to believe the twisting can never be corrected (maybe with rare surgery?)At foot strike the foot lands inward so in the back phase the foot is trying to get back to a more normal position, in the picture it's on its way back to the left to make a straight line. search femoral anteversion and you won't get anything related to this because it's not a big issue. For a high level runner it can lead to big problems. The main problems occur when running fast, and the glute shuts down due to all the work.

the glutes action is to extend and outwardly rotate hip. So a lot of lot of glute/hip strengthening on only the left leg. this can lead to problems running long races on the track making left turns.

abdi does it too

also If its only the left leg on your high school athletes I think its key to try and limit the amount of running on the track. (or during some workouts you can have those athletes go opposite direction). This can limit some of the problems down the road especially if they hope to run in college.

r stupider wrote:

ur stupid wrote:

"toe OFF"

Your point?

"OFF" as in off the ground, and as stupid put it post toe off.

Get it stupid?

I've noticed this in videos and pictures I've seen of myself. I ran sub 29:15 in college and don't believe it ever hindered my running - really don't notice it unless I pay close attention and I wouldn't even know where to start on how to correct it. I guess it does make sense that some power would be lost because of it.

I would seek an advice from an orthotist . These people are very knowledgeable an seeing an athlete in motion ( running , walking ,front , rear ) gives them a very good idea .

I talked to some and even had custom orthotics made - the evaluation of body in motion was superb .

Make sure the person deals with athletes ( my orthotist is a triathlete )

Al Sal, Abdi, and Kinsella all have similar form. All are fast. I'll bet if any one of them worked on 'correcting' their form they would be more likely to get hurt.

Also Al Sal was one of the most efficient users of oxygen at 5min/mile pace every measured. His form looked terrible, but it must not have been as bad as we all thought.

The pic of Abdi was going around a curve, maybe that's why the foot twisted.

whoa, megan kaltenbach looking pretty fly there, not gonna lie.

soup ur stupid wrote:

"OFF" as in off the ground, and as stupid put it post toe off.

Get it stupid?

No, I don't get it. What's wrong with, "The rotation occurs post-toe-off"?

We noticed this in pictures of our daughter when she was in 8th grade running. We got her to a PT who specialized in running and she had a weak side starting at the butt-hip all the way down the IT band and knee. She started training with him to strengthen it as well as other core stuff. It took some time but she had much better form. Now 4 years later you would never know she ever did it.

wet & soggy wrote:

We noticed this in pictures of our daughter when she was in 8th grade running. We got her to a PT who specialized in running and she had a weak side starting at the butt-hip all the way down the IT band and knee. She started training with him to strengthen it as well as other core stuff. It took some time but she had much better form. Now 4 years later you would never know she ever did it.

How much faster is she now than when she was in 8th grade?

Footlocker finalist. Multible times.

mile:4:52

3000m: 9:45

5K XC 17:35

We saw potential in her in 8th grade and wanted to fix the flaw in her form as soon as possible. She regressed a little at first, but who cares in 8th grade. The older years were what counted. She has never had an injury because she still sees the PT guy every week to train and work on form drills.