We have a really good girl on our team who the coach is making me pace for workouts etc...
The coach doesn't even seem to care about my workouts and stuff... the girl is elite and so the coach only really pays attention to her (because the coach himself has gotten interviewed etc because of her)
What do I do? Should I talk to coach?
hell yea... im sure the chick can do some workouts by herself, or even get some slower girls to alternate doing half the repeats with her ... ie she runs 800m, one girl runs first 400m, other girl hops in for second 400m then they get the extra rest of the fast chick finishing her repeat
If her shorts are rolled then Scooter Libby her to the officials to have her DQed. That'll teach her and your coach !
Yea the thing is that the girl is cool with other girls pacing her or running the workouts by herself...
it's just that the coach is making people like me pace her for workouts... she even told the coach it was okay, she could run them by herself etc but the coach is all about getting glory (i think..) and so wants the best for her...
actually she might see this thread or one of her teammates might because I know the girl's team checks letsrun/dyestat a lot..
Is she hot?
Don't suppose the idea of helping another athlete has ever occurred to you, or is this just some macho insult thing you can't handle?
Seems like a compliment that the coach picked you as someone who could help--now you need to decide if you will help.
Get your ego out of the way and help, people remember people who help unselfishly (which you aren't).
some of you guys are desperate losers... we are just friends and she's a nice girl but that's about it.
For what's supposed to be a college/middle age messageboard there are so many immature people on here...
potbellied stoker wrote:
Don't suppose the idea of helping another athlete has ever occurred to you, or is this just some macho insult thing you can't handle?
Seems like a compliment that the coach picked you as someone who could help--now you need to decide if you will help.
Get your ego out of the way and help, people remember people who help unselfishly (which you aren't).
Maybe if he's pacing her then he's not getting as good a workout as he should be if he's faster than she is. He shouldn't sacrifice his training to help her.
Nice to see that there are some somewhat mature high school guys on this board...
track girl x wrote:
Nice to see that there are some somewhat mature high school guys on this board...
I doubt it. No way any reasonable post on here was by someone south of 60 years old.
what do i do wrote:
For what's supposed to be a college/middle age messageboard there are so many immature people on here...
And this surprises you?
important question: are you male or female?
You should hang out with this guy...
Should I have handled this girl situation differently? (I'm a sub 1430 guy if that helps) - irunthis
I know, it can be intimidating at first for runners to have to be around girls, but don't be afraid -- they don't bite. Actually some do, and it can be a lot of fun.
Seriously, if she's that good, it can't hurt your training to train with her, unless she's causing you to overtrain.
What's your concern exactly? What do you think you are missing?
PS: Who said this was supposed to be a college/middle-age messageboard, or that college/middle-age people were mature? There's only about 3 or 4 of us.
what do i do wrote:
We have a really good girl on our team who the coach is making me pace for workouts etc...
The coach doesn't even seem to care about my workouts and stuff...
Did it ever occur to you that her workouts are your workouts? Is that an issue?
Wouldn't the obvious solution be for the elite girl to run workouts with the male team? Or even for one or two average guys to run with her?
I'd agree with Sam that if she runs with faster males that might be a better idea. Alternatively, she could run with the girls starting on a handicap after them.
The danger of her having a male runner pace her sessions is that she may not be developing her own sense of pace judgement - crucial for races.
I've been coaching very mixed groups of athletes for years now. The range at 800m has included a group with a 1.49 runner to others over 2.20. They cope. I always feel that the fastest runner usually gets the most benefit from the sessions as often they are the one setting the pace. If they run a fast rep so do they others. If they run a slow one they other usually do as well.
My two cents worth - it is up to the girl to approach the coach and let him know what she wants to do and why.
what do i do wrote:
We have a really good girl on our team who the coach is making me pace for workouts etc...
The coach doesn't even seem to care about my workouts and stuff... the girl is elite and so the coach only really pays attention to her (because the coach himself has gotten interviewed etc because of her)
What do I do? Should I talk to coach?
It's funny how we always want coaches to do whatever they can to help us get better. But when they do something for someone else we think the coach is only thinking about themself. I think you know the coach isn't out lookinf for glory. He's just trying to help a runner who's actually good enough to do something special.
Bottom line is if you were faster and a legit runner yourself you wouldn't be in this situation. This may be your way to not get cut so don't give up the only thing that makes you valuable to your coach.
If you and this girl are of similar ability to the point where if she were a guy, she would be considered a suitable training partner (its very rare that you get someone who's EXACTLY the same speed and ability level) and you're going to be running similar workouts anyways then I really don't see this as a problem at all. Think of it as your greatest opportunity to help the team overall. As others have said, this is a major responsibility your coach has entrusted you with and will often win you the respect of the coach and other athletes. It's simply more beneficial to train in a group if the option is available. She shouldn't have to work out by herself just because she can.
If your coach is significantly holding you back in workouts simply to pace her, however, then this is another issue and you should talk with him about your concerns.
I've worked with girls who are working out with the guys and still going when the guys are done so they're clearly not holding anyone back. This is a fine situation for all and how many of the elite women train. Some guys can't handle it, though, and they'll show off by blasting the early parts of the workout and basically ruin it for everyone. Don't be that guy.
There is a difference between training with someone and pacing someone.