Runners with national records in every event from 1,500 to the marathon including the steeple?

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  • rojo
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    11 years ago 01/14/2009 7:06pm CST
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    Yesterday, we got a press release from the Vienna Marathon that talks about how Günther Weidlinger - the guy famous for his steeple fall at world's 2007 - will be making his marathon debut there on April 19th.

    We put the release up in our news section: http://www.letsrun.com/2009/viennamarathon0113.php

    Earlier tonight, I was reading the article to see if it deserved mention on the homepage. I was stunned to learn how good Weidlinger is. Weidlinger has the Austrian records at everything from 1,500 to the half marathon INCLUDING THE STEEPLE.

    His PRs reveal unreal range: 1,500 m (3:34.69 minutes), 3,000 m (Indoors: 7:44.19), 3,000 m steeple chase (8:10.83), 5,000 m (13:13.44), 10,000 m (27:36.46), 10 k road (28:10) and half marathon (61:42).

    The Austrian record in the marathon is only 2:12:22 so he'll likely get that.

    Can anyone else think of someone who has ever national record from 1,500 to the marathon including the steeple?

    -Rojo.
    PS. IF you want to cringe, the steeple fall video is here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuE6XpLg0vE
  • jsquire
    11 years ago 01/14/2009 8:50pm CST
    re: rojo
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    I'm not trying to pick nits here, but does the outdoor 3k count for the "every event" designation? Because Weidlinger doesn't have it, Dietmar Millonig does (7:43.66).

    If "every event" means every championship event, then we're looking at 1500m, steeple, 5k, 10k, and marathon outdoors and 3k indoors. I'm just trying to get the specifics down before I spend some time on this. It intrigues me.

    www.athlerecords.net has every record for every nation in the world, but it's a pay site.
  • on the runs
    11 years ago 01/14/2009 9:56pm CST
    re: rojo
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    First, Geb has better range. Second, from 2002 to 2003, Geb held Ethiopian NRs at 1500m indoors, the mile, 2000m, 3000m, 2 miles, 5000m, 10000m, the half marathon and the maratho,

    Sonia has all the Irish records from the 800m to the marathon (but not the steeple as it's a new event).
  • coachkritter
    11 years ago 01/14/2009 10:41pm CST
    re: on the runs
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    Anders Garderud, '76 Olympic steeple champ from Sweden, may have held all his countries records, 1500-10k, in the mid 70's.
  • rojo
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    11 years ago 01/14/2009 11:27pm CST
    re: coachkritter
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    Come on guys, everyone knows what I mean. I mean national records in legitimate times (like Olympic A standards to eliminate some tiny little country) in every Olympic event.
    1500
    steeple
    5k
    10k
    Marathon.

    If you don't want to include the half that is fine.

    Yes is faster at every event but he doesn't steeple and he doesn't have national records in them all.

    So the flat 3k outdoors doesn't count.
  • in the ballpark...
    11 years ago 01/14/2009 11:49pm CST
    re: rojo
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    at the time of his death, Steve Prefontaine held all the American records from the 2k to the 10k (no steeple).
  • malmo
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    11 years ago 01/15/2009 12:49am CST
    re: coachkritter
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    coachkritter wrote:

    Anders Garderud, '76 Olympic steeple champ from Sweden, may have held all his countries records, 1500-10k, in the mid 70's.

    Nope. Garderud has never held the Swedish record for either the 1500, 3000, or 10000.
  • Stanhope
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    11 years ago 01/15/2009 1:12am CST
    re: rojo
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    Recently retired Kamiel Maase has national records in 5k/10k/marathon (well within the Olympic standard).

    Lornah Kiplagat owns these three nat. records as well.

    Didn't Waitz or Kristiansen had a lot of nat. records at the time?
  • Off the Grid
    11 years ago 01/15/2009 1:31am CST
    re: rojo
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    Aland - Ann-Catrin Nordman 425/929/1653/3503/25319 (no womens steeple)
    Arbua - Kimball Reynierse 4:10/8:24/14:18/29:12/2:13:43/9:35
    Liberia - Nimley Twegbe 4:04/15:37/33:04/3:08:22/10:09
    New Caledonia - Alain Lazare 1:53/3:50/8:13/14:09/29:13/2:11:59/8:54
    Reunion - Jean-Louis Prianon 3:46/7:48/13:28/27:34/2:19:17/9:12



    Plenty of countries where the 15/3/5/10/marathon record holder is one person - Greenland, Libya, Luxembourg etc - but no steeple. All world class times too.
  • OR
    11 years ago 01/15/2009 1:36am CST
    re: rojo
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    This is pretty much going to be the list of steeple chasers in countries that don't have a lot of elite athletes.

    I would have to guess that most 8:10 steeple guys can run roughly these times (the 1500 is bit faster, 10k slower than I would expect).

    Did Said Auoita end up with all the national records from 800-10k for a period of time?
  • track chick
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    11 years ago 01/15/2009 3:00am CST
    re: OR
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    iceland possibly?
  • Off the Grid
    11 years ago 01/15/2009 3:29am CST
    re: track chick
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    track chick wrote:

    iceland possibly?

    Jon Didriksson 3:41/8:05/14:13/8:49
    2 others have 10k 30:10 and marathon 2:19

    3-4 people on the women's side.
  • Catty Mc
    11 years ago 01/15/2009 6:07am CST
    re: on the runs
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    on the runs wrote:Sonia has all the Irish records from the 800m to the marathon (but not the steeple as it's a new event).
    Catherina McKiernan has the Irish marathon record at 2:22 - some 7 minutes faster than Sonia's best.
  • GlobalView
    11 years ago 01/15/2009 8:56am CST
    re: Off the Grid
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    That's awesome research! I'll confess that I hadn't heard of most of the countries you refer to.

    The challenge was issued, and you hit it out of the park!
  • Blowing Rock Master
    11 years ago 01/15/2009 9:06am CST
    re: Off the Grid
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    I consider myself pretty good at geography, but I've never heard of Aland. Are you sure that's not from Lord of the Rings?
  • Pogo
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    11 years ago 01/15/2009 11:34am CST
    re: Blowing Rock Master
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    Blowing Rock Master wrote:

    I consider myself pretty good at geography, but I've never heard of Aland. Are you sure that's not from Lord of the Rings?

    http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=aland
  • ExCAC
    11 years ago 01/15/2009 1:52pm CST
    re: pogo
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    Times might not be world class but I know of a guy who attended CAC who has all the records from 1500-Marathon. Name zephinrnus Joseph from St Lucia. 3:48, 14:24, 29:48, 44:55, 1:04.50, 2:16.04. No steeple
  • Blowing Rock Master
    11 years ago 01/15/2009 2:00pm CST
    re: pogo
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    So the reason I've never heard of the country of Aland is because it's not a country. Thank you for being so informative.
  • said88
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    11 years ago 01/15/2009 3:07pm CST
    re: OR
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    Did Said Auoita end up with all the national records from 800-10k for a period of time?

    Yes, from September 87 until Boutaibs 10000m gold in 88, Aouita held every Moroccan record from 800m to 10000m: 800m, 1000m, 1500m, 1 Mile, 2000m, 3000m, 2 Miles, 5000m, 10000m, 3000mSt
  • Rocky Rochelle
    11 years ago 01/15/2009 3:33pm CST
    re: said88
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    I believe Itay Magidi may hold the Israeli records for steeple, 5k, and 10k. Not sure about 1500m.