“I went to Beijing in February and saw how the weather looked like. It was more of a mess, and I thought it was difficult to run there DUE TO MY ASTHMA PROBLEM. I am all right now; for the last four years, my doctors have been treating me,” he said.
-from the article that was the quote of the day (12/29)
I just can't believe that this guy can run 2:04 for the marathon and not have absolutely perfect lungs.
There is a lot of suspicion that some elite athletes are diagnosed with asthma so that they can be prescribed drugs that are generally prohibited (for being performance enhancing). Paula Radcliffe is another one. I am not sure if I buy into it or not, but it is a coincidence that the two marathon WR holders have "asthma."
We know.
Look it up, asthma meds aren't going to help someone that doesn't have asthma.
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN TITANIC COMES OUT ON VHS?!?!?!
Trollio wrote:
Look it up, asthma meds aren't going to help someone that doesn't have asthma.
Debatable, as it depends on the type of medication prescribed. Some steroid-based asthma based medications could be considered performance-enhancing.
I've seen a disproportionate (w/ regards to the proportion of asthma-sufferers in the population at large) number of runners 'develop' the need for asthma meds under certain coaches.
ehhhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
Trollio wrote:Look it up, asthma meds aren't going to help someone that doesn't have asthma.
Debatable, as it depends on the type of medication prescribed. Some steroid-based asthma based medications could be considered performance-enhancing.
I've seen a disproportionate (w/ regards to the proportion of asthma-sufferers in the population at large) number of runners 'develop' the need for asthma meds under certain coaches.
Do a PubMed search. The vast majority of studies show no performance benefit for otherwise healthy folks using beta-2 agonists.
There's some evidence that they up-regulate serum glucose levels, thus enhancing the efficiency of carbohydrate oxidation.
But you can get the same thing from gels.
In terms of breathing I agree, no way to gain a competitive advantage.
Beta 2-agonists have so many negative side effects that it's definietly no help for an athlete who doesn't suffer from Asthma.A lot of athletes have asthma because of hard endurance training during winter and an athlete is gonna recognise excercise enduced asthma quickly while a couch potato might not recognise it all.
Some people have asthma that only bothers them when their allergies flair up. Whereas otherwise they are absolutely fine. Geb sounds like he is one of those. He probably has no problems in normal air conditions.
Mrr82 wrote:
Some people have asthma that only bothers them when their allergies flair up. Whereas otherwise they are absolutely fine. Geb sounds like he is one of those. He probably has no problems in normal air conditions.
also important to note that Lung volume isnt limmiting factor in vventilatory process. Its the actual carrying capacity.
He may have asthma but if his body is now better at transfering the O2 when he isnt having flair ups it could be a physiological benefit. Much like living at altitude
I'm asthmatic does that mean i will run sub 2.04 for the marathon?
Could ephedra based asthma medication help keep their body weight down equaling better times?
Geb is one of the few people that ACTUALLY have asthma. Now days everyone has asthma. It's part of America's gradual pussification. There are so many kids these days that claim to have asthma to get out of physical exercise. Geb is a world class athlete that has asthma deals with it, and has become the greatest distance runner of all time.
L14719 wrote:
Could ephedra based asthma medication help keep their body weight down equaling better times?
That could be a possible benefit for athletes in other sports but I doubt most professional runners, especially marathoners, have a problem with weight.
I began using a steroid-based asthma drug last summer, and got no performance benefit at all.
I was diagnosed with exercise-induced asthma and allergies this past summer after a lifetime without them (I'm 34 now). I started crashing in the middle of workouts that I was able to do a couple of weeks before. I started taking an allergy medicine and using an inhaler before workouts and races. I wasn't sure that I needed the inhaler, but figured that it might be an interesting amateur experiment in PEDs. I'm a 3:10 marathon, 39 minute 10k guy, so all the PEDs in the world won't make me competitive anyway. After ten weeks of good training (I thought) using the meds, I was no faster than the previous spring and had a series of lousy races.
Before this, I assumed that most elite athletes (like Haile and Paula) might be using asthma medicine to enhance performance, since so many have them. Now, I'm not so sure. They didn't help me.
I certainly don't think asthma meds would help most people. The question, however, is what strength prescriptions these elite athletes are being given? Can the meds make a difference if they are in massive doses?
I certainly don't think asthma meds would help most people. The question, however, is what strength prescriptions these elite athletes are being given? Can the meds make a difference if they are in massive doses?
Hey "dht", I think I'm suffering from a similar condition: all of a sudden developed bad allergies and asthma - with workouts going in the crapper as a result. If you don't mind me asking, what medication/inhaler are you on now, and is it working?
dont you wish you could run a wrote:
There's some evidence that they up-regulate serum glucose levels, thus enhancing the efficiency of carbohydrate oxidation.
But you can get the same thing from gels.
In terms of breathing I agree, no way to gain a competitive advantage.
Wouldn't that be a bit counter-intuitive for an endurance runner, though?