So, I just finished watching ironman on NBC and saw Peter Reid run a marathon in 2:47, after swimming 2.4miles and bikiing 112 miles. That is pretty amazing! What could he run a marathon in if that is all he did? Or has he? If so, what was his time.
So, I just finished watching ironman on NBC and saw Peter Reid run a marathon in 2:47, after swimming 2.4miles and bikiing 112 miles. That is pretty amazing! What could he run a marathon in if that is all he did? Or has he? If so, what was his time.
2:2ish
Mark Allen ran a 2:35 ironman in '89 (time without transition) and consistently around that time for the next 6 years, but he could only run 2:24 or 2:27 (it's hard to remember exactly) for a lone marathon. the fact is that they are racing pretty close to their max pace, probably within 15 minutes. Reid running 2:20ish definately isn't a good conversion from what he ran this year at Hawaii.
I thought Mark Allen had run 2H18...
Mark ran 29:59 for 10k, 49:59 at Cherry Blossom for 10m.
reid ran 2:47 at the end of the iron man. Take out the bike and swim that would put him around 2:27 for marathon on that day. If reid had trained the past say 15 month for just the marathon he would be around 2:20. You have to figure all the other training probably takes away from his running a little, The biking and the swiming. maybe even under 2:20.
yeahyeah wrote:
Mark Allen ran a 2:35 ironman in '89 (time without transition) and consistently around that time for the next 6 years, but he could only run 2:24 or 2:27 (it's hard to remember exactly) for a lone marathon. the fact is that they are racing pretty close to their max pace, probably within 15 minutes. Reid running 2:20ish definately isn't a good conversion from what he ran this year at Hawaii.
Actually Mark Allen's time in Hawai in 89 was 2H40:04
Peter Reid is an animal. Even at that level he lost the drive and determination, took a 6 month break, gained weight, hardly exercised at all, and then regained the fire and started training to be the best US triathlete again.
Kamikaze wrote:
Peter Reid is an animal. Even at that level he lost the drive and determination, took a 6 month break, gained weight, hardly exercised at all, and then regained the fire and started training to be the best US triathlete again.
Isn't Peter Reid Canadian??
peter reid's canadian
GaryB wrote:
Isn't Peter Reid Canadian??
yeah, sorry he is still a bad ass.
Reid has run fast...Ironman Austria 1999 splits:
00:48:28, 04:25:08, 02:35:21, 07:51:56
Yep, that's a 2:35:21 'thon, and a 7:51 Ironman...freaking unbelievable....
Thank God he doesn't wear one of those man bra's like the olympic distance fags.
Mark allen ran a 2:35ish without transitions included... He even said he never broke 2:20 in the marathon.
Allen tried a 2:12 at Berlin the year after his last IM and was on target for a good while before stomach trouble stopped him, if I recall.
When you look at a 2:40 marathon in Hawaii you must take into account the heat. If Allen & Scott had raced an IM that day on a flat course in a cool climate, they would have run close to 2:30 there and then even after the swim and bike.
Most top Ironmen could go around 2:20, but the training the do is not based around working at Marathon Pace which is so crucial for a Marathon. In IM the pace is so much slwoer that the specific speed sessions are of less value and the mileage is much lower due to the other training required.
Bottom line - a 2:40 in Hawaii IM is worth just over 2:30 on a cool, flat course in an IM; about 2:20 in a straight marathon and 2:15 if they actually trained for one.
That said, I think the run is the weak link for many of them. Dave Scott has often said that most top IM do not train properly for the run.
The Marathoncourse was short at Ironman Austria 99.
1-2k too short from what i know
check out the latest outside mag. there's an article about overtraining in it and peter reid talked about how trashed he got. but it says he took off 6 weeks and didn't work out then came back and was able to race well again.
Reid is the man, there's no doubt about it. I was mainly trying to point out how these guys are racing the marathon portion of an Ironman within 15 minutes of the fastest marathon time. That's sickening! but it says something HUGE for the importance and the power of pushing the anaerobic threshold up and out of sight. I'm glad someone pointed out that australia '99 had a short marathon course. but, the point remains, they are beast.
did Bowden and Reid get divorces? what's the scoop on that?
He is an animal, but he only took 7 weeks off. Reid said he did nothing for 7 weeks because he thought he was going to retire. He gained a good amount of weight 15lbs.