There are three Tennessee boys who made it in the top five at the South regional. They looked strong and fierce running fast through the mud and rain. The south course is fast but it is not short. So, what do all the experts think the chances are that one of them makes top ten at Balboa Park? I'm picking Bill Matthews top three!
Dunbar
The Ethiopian man from Maryland will win the race by 10 seconds, minimum. Nobody cares who finishes second.
Who cares? Haven't heard of most of the boys. The girls race looks much more exciting because it will be a race for the ages between three defending national champions and more.
Tennessee Runner Fan wrote:
The south course is fast but it is not short.
The Footlocker South course has been proven to be short by anyone and everyone who has measured it. And, "no," there will not be a South Runner in the top three. Due some research and look at the credentials of South runners who finished in the top three in the last eight years. No one this year is even close.
I do hope Footlocker stays, the NXN individual was not great in my opinion. I don't think you can have it both ways. Soloman Haile or Manilafusia (sp) from Colorado.
It is not short.
I think Matthews has a great shot at top 3. Who cares if the South course is a little short? His time is right up there with the best in history on that course. The only person who ran significantly faster there was Bumbalough. Matthews is flying under the radar and peaking at the perfect time. He's not the type to go out to Cali just to take in the sights and finish the race. That said, there is some stiff competition in the form of Dunbar, Haile, and others. Matthews could finish in the middle of the pack but don't be surprised if he is in the top five or even wins it.
cah87 wrote:
It is not short.
I have measured it. Have you?
If the course is short, then why don't they just move the start or finish line the distance necessary to make it a legit 5K? Continuing to run a race over a short course just compounds the problem.
Have you contacted the race directors with your findings? How much shorter than 5K is the course?
Cross country is cross country. Who cares if it's a "regulation" 5K? The efforts of John Dye and other egocentric individuals to standardize cross country so times can be "compared" is totally ridiculous. I'm amazed people are stupid enough to "compare" times on different courses. You may as well tattoo 'STUPID' on your forehead.
so how long is it?
I never said it mattered whether the course was 5k or not. I just find it annoying when people (including the race directors) insist that it is 5k.
Measured from the middle of the course, McAlpine is 70 meters short. If you have the benefit of running tangents--which only the leaders in the seeded race get--then the cours is anywhere from 90-110 meters short. I measured it both ways.
This point has been brought up over and over again with the race directors but it won't change.
Again, who cares but people need to stop insisting that the course is legit.
slippery wrote:
Cross country is cross country. Who cares if it's a "regulation" 5K? The efforts of John Dye and other egocentric individuals to standardize cross country so times can be "compared" is totally ridiculous. I'm amazed people are stupid enough to "compare" times on different courses. You may as well tattoo 'STUPID' on your forehead.
Please don't misunderstand my post in a weird way and then decide I'm the one who needs a "STUPID" tatoo.
If the race is announced as 5K, it should be that distance, or honestly listed for its true distance.
the course is legit...its 40 meters short but its still legit. The course's job is to qualify the 10 best guys for nationals!
...back to the topic at hand
thats what she said
solomon haile for the win
christopher shwartz second
tyler udland for third
trevor dunbar fourth
brian schrader fifth
brian schrader for the win!
Wyatt Landrum FTW