Why U.S. runners are not good marathoners.

Goo Bird,

I don't believe we had that technological edge. I

believe NASA MOONED AMERICA (It's a book by R. Rene).

If you read Rene's book and the research done by Bill

Kaysing, you'll change your mind about our having gone

to the moon. Just as an example NASA photograph numbered

AS16-107-17446 is titled "Apollo XVI on the Moon". If

you look at the picture, you'll observe a number of

anomalies. You'll notice sharp footprints and tire tracks.

The problem here is that there can be no such prints or

tracks because THERE IS NO MOISTURE ON THE MOON. Especially

during the daytime when surface temperatures are about 250

degrees. Couple this with the vacuum of space and any water

in the dirt would boil away in seconds.

Secondly, the shadows of Astronaut and the Rover are in a

different direction than the rocks nearer the camera.

Sunlight casts parallel shadows. The shadows in this picture

are emitted in several different directions.

Oscar

Goo Bird wrote:

America was better at everything in the 70's.

Space program was better (Moon Landing, Skylab)

For the record out there young men and women, the moon landing was in 1969 and Skylab fell out of the sky into Australia in 1980. These events bookend the 70s decade.

Oscar Meyer wrote:

I don't believe we had that technological edge ... you'll change your mind about our having gone to the moon.

No, no, and double no! That's not how it really happened. We were warned off the moon by extraterrestrials who have a base there and are planning to soon launch a hostile takeover of our planet.

That's the real truth. And you can take that to the bank, because some fruit loop on Art Bell's radio program said so.

Come on, "Oscar"; get your conspiracy theories straight!

stay off the moors wrote:

We were warned off the moon by extraterrestrials who have a base there and are planning to soon launch a hostile takeover of our planet.

So, as you see, we really did go to the moon, which means our technology and resolve was better in the '70s. Therefore, by the transitive property of ... well, some kind of transitive property ..., everything about America (including marathoning) was better in the '70s.

So all we've got to do is just get determined again, knuckle down to the task at hand, and by gum we can be the best once more (sound of "The Star-Spangled Banner" playing in the background)!

Sex? I was born way before the '70's.

The only thing Bush has sent beyond the Earth's orbit is the federal budget deficit. Nice to see him want to make it even bigger by spending tens of billions of dollars to get back to the point we were at in late 60s.

And the world in the 70s sucked because there was no Letsrun and Dyestat, not to mention Comedy Central. What we had instead was tens of thousands dead in Vietnam, persisting fear of nuclear holocaust, crippling oil shortage, and sky high crime levels.

Anyone who thinks the 70s were better than now obviously overdosed on the reefer during that decade.

I'll tell you why. In the 1970's, Jeff Galloway was an elite runner chasing an Olympic dream. John "The Penguin" Bingham didn't know or care about running then. America was competitive on the world scene.

Fast forward to today. Jeff Galloway is a con-man telling the public that walk breaks are the best way to run. John "The Penguin" Bingham is a national columnist telling the public that running fast isn't worth the effort. America is no longer competitive on the world scene.

Coincidence? Probably. However, there is no denying that these two are profiting from and furthering the decline, even if they didn't start it.

America actually built its own good in the 70's.

In the AFI 100 best film list 34 are from the 70s. Everything was better then. Everything is bad today.

Today's wimp actors cannot hold a candle to the great American actors that started their careers in the 70s. You cannot name one actor today under 40 who is better than either Hoffman or Deniro.

Everything sucks today.

Thank you for that priceless wisdom. And US swimmers aren't as good today either, since there are always people telling you it's fun to swim for recreation. Oh no, wait, swimmers are actually faster now, even after decades of shills pushing this "swimming as a pleasant recreational activity" crap.

Gallowpenguini is about as relevant to this discussion as moon landing conspiracy discussions. Although it would be nice to send P. Diddy to the moon. One way only.

Most of the Moon landings took place in the early 70's. Skylab was a 70's project.

It is hard to believe with computers less sophisticated than a 10 year home PC NASA technology put humans on the moon. Everytime I look in the sky at the moon I wonder what it was like to be one of the few human being ever to walk on the surface of that alien world.

Interestingly enough, the Bush Whitehouse yesterday announced intentions of going back to the moon. Many believe this is a PR stunt to mask the Shuttles failings and also the recent launch of Chinese astronauts into space. For the first time in forty two years the US has slipped behind two nations in human space flight. That is a f***ing disgrace. US Marathoning is pretty irrelevant compared to the ailing US space program.

Where the f*** is the pride at NASA. Why aren't they going ahead full throttle with the Oribital Space Plane. There are only 3 space shuttle left and one is basically a spare parts mule. NASA cannot assume 2.5 space shuttle are going to survive until 2020. I agree with one former Apollo engineer who said just bring back the old Apollo capsules and use them today.

The new orbital space plane looks like it has about a 80% of being produced. Unfortunately, there are a few senators trying to scrap the program. Still, NASA has the space plane down to 4 designs. The new "mini-shuttles" will be about the size of a gulfstream business jet. NASA can build 5 mini-shuttle for the price of one Space Shuttle. Obviously, the OSP (Orbital Space Plane) makes the most economic sense for NASA. America needs a new human launch vehicle ASAP!!!

As for Man never landing on the Moon that is totally bullshit. Landing on the Moon is the greatest technical accomplishment in the history of mankind.

I provided a link of the four finalist for the OSP project.

The winner should be announced before summer 04. Production will hopefully begin 2005 with the first models flying by 2010. Maximum speed will be around 23,000 mph. NOTE: The OSP is not intended to leave earth's orbit. It is design only to service the International space Station. If the US wants to go back to the moon the Apollo capsule is the answer. Of course all its dated "late sixties" technology will have to be replaced at a considerable cost. NASA has three leftover Apollo units which include, Capsule, Lunar module, and Saturn 5 Rocket.