If she had actually said anything interesting I may have stayed up and watched the rebroadcast late tonight, but it doesn't look like it. But I'm sure Oprah helped her find her spirit or whatever it is she does, though.
I haven't had time to watch the broadcast of the show which I taped. But I taped it for a reason. I wanted to see if she'd fess up to being a drug cheat. Not just apologize for lying to federal authorities but apologize for cheating herself to many medals.Well I was in the car a few minutes ago and the news came on and the report said Marion said she never knowingly cheated. I almost crashed the car in anger.Phil Hersh is dead on when he writes the following:
"Maybe, Marion, the problem is you have become something of a pathological liar.
You lied to federal investigators about use of performance-enhancing drugs.
You lied to federal investigators about your role in a money-laundering scheme.
Now you want us to believe that you were totally unaware of what was going into your body after years of competing at a level where one failed drug test could end your career?
"I thought everyone on that track (in Sydney) was drug-free, including myself," Jones told Oprah."
GIVE ME A BREAK. Thje last quote there is a joke. No Olympic athlete thinks everyone is clean.
If I had to bet which is more likely that Marion Jones never knowingly took PEDs or that she was a drug cheat in high school, I'd take the drug cheat in high school as being more likely.
I had the show on but was doing other things and did not give it my undivided attention. But what I did notice was that when Oprah asked if Marion had apologized to her relay teammates, Marion's expression suggested that that notion had never even occurred to her.
I remember a few years ago when Marion was at the Millrose Games to run the 60-meter dash - which, given her height and slowish start, was not even an event we expected her to win. She took the lead at about the 59.5-meter mark and did get the victory. I remember being impressed by how completely imperturbable (sic) she was, and how the quite literal crush of the media - in the interview area, there was hardly even room for her - didn't faze her one bit.
But of course, to achieve all of that, you have to be extremely self-centered and have an ability to shut out quite a bit of reality. From what I saw today, Marion is adept at both of thsoe things.
Sort of like some political candidates, show-biz types et al
Thank you, Phil Hersch! The Oprah interview made me so angry, I couldn't even watch the whole thing.
it was frustrating because she's still not telling the truth. how is it possible that so many other people give the similar accounts of her drug use but she is the one who isn't lying. her story just doesn't make sense. when oprah asked her what she thought she was taking (since she claimed that she previously didn't know what the clear was) jones had no answer!! she said that she couldn't remember what she thought it was and that it was so long ago. oprah then suggests flaxseed oil, and then all of a sudden marion's memory comes back. i realize that people can sometimes forget things, but i don't buy that she "couldn't remember" what she thought she was taking. she must have been asked this question so many times, how can she not remember? or at least have a canned response? i just don't buy it.
I watched a part of the interview and was floored by some of her answers also. The part that gets me though is why did she even fess up to lying in the first place? She could have continued lying and more than likely never gotten into trouble with the Feds. I speculated with my wife, that it's almost like she needed the jail time to revive herself. What would she be doing now if she'd never been to jail? She wouldn't be racing. She wouldn't be on Oprah. Or doing any of the other interviews I'd be willing to bet are lined up for her. I'd also bet there's a made for TV movie out there. If she was actually bankrupt, as I read in a couple articles, then maybe this was all scripted as a way of getting some money coming in. But that'd be freaking goofier than this post.
Armstrong set the tone for all these excuse mouths. Bonds, Clemens, Canseco, all have the same tone and rationale.
When is the rebroadcast of this interview? What channel and what time?
It was Lance that 1st went round saying "Performance enhancing drugs don't help". Now that's the mantra of all confirmed dopers.
i missed it can someone tell me if oprah really worked on jones with tough questions like the way ted koppel used to ask tough questions on nightline? or did oprah throw a lot of softball questions at her, i hope it was the former.
rojo wrote:
I haven't had time to watch the broadcast of the show which I taped. But I taped it for a reason. I wanted to see if she'd fess up to being a drug cheat. Not just apologize for lying to federal authorities but apologize for cheating herself to many medals.
Well I was in the car a few minutes ago and the news came on and the report said Marion said she never knowingly cheated. I almost crashed the car in anger.
Phil Hersh is dead on when he writes the following:
"I thought everyone on that track (in Sydney) was drug-free, including myself," Jones told Oprah."
GIVE ME A BREAK. Thje last quote there is a joke. No Olympic athlete thinks everyone is clean.
If I had to bet which is more likely that Marion Jones never knowingly took PEDs or that she was a drug cheat in high school, I'd take the drug cheat in high school as being more likely.
There's a longer recap of the interview on Oprah's website.
http://www.oprah.com/slideshow/oprahshow/20081024_tows_marionjones/1In her tearful press conference, Marion specifically apologized to many people for letting them down. She did not, however, apologize to her sprint relay teammates—even though they were later stripped of their medals because of her doping. Marion says that omission was not on purpose, but due to the fact that her focus was on her family. "I didn't make the choice not to," she says. "It just got blended in with everything else. That whomever I have hurt, whoever has [been] hurt because of this, I apologize."
Marion says she was not opposed to giving her own medals back and did so before her incarceration. She only found out that her teammates would have to give back theirs during her time in prison. "To have to give up your gold medals is horrible, but it comes down to I made a choice to lie. My intent was never to harm them," she says. "When I stepped on the track with them in Sydney, I thought we were going for the gold medal, and everybody on that track was drug-free, including myself. I never stepped on that track with the intent to try and cover anything up and help them to win by doing something illegally. So I apologize to everybody that my choice to lie has affected—including them."
Oprah is not an investigative journalist any longer. Not since her days as a TV reporter has she done actual journalism. She does promos, celebrities, a la People Magazine, "E" Channel. SO, I wouldn't hold her feet to the fire in her interviews with known PED users like Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, and so forth.
Now that she has been on Oprah, she will probably be the poster girl fighting drugs in schools and athletics like she was once for track and field. Marion is a smart girl like Jessica Simpson and Brittany Spears. Although they do stupid stuff it boost there popularity and makes them money. Watch and see.
Armstrong set the tone wrote:
Armstrong set the tone for all these excuse mouths. Bonds, Clemens, Canseco, all have the same tone and rationale.
Surely you got Canseco in there by mistake. You might dislike him, but his "tone and rationale" are certainly different than the rest of your list. :)
Matthew Parris on the art of apology:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/matthew_parris/article5033659.ece
An interesting read.
Anyone catch the blip on ESPN this AM?
"I felt really good. I thought I was peaking. It was an Olympic year and I thought all my training, diet and supplements were comming together."
Flax seed oil apparently does wonders!
Why the hell is she getting all the attention?
That's my story and I'm sticking with it.
malmo RE: Marion Jones admits steroid use 10/4/2007 6:01PM - in reply to Mr. Obvious Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The Case Against Marryin' Jonz (annotated version)
You pay for your wife's (Marryin' Jonz) cocaine habit with a check.[1] Later, she denies any relationship with the local coke dealer, Victor Vector [2], and denies knowing about the check.
Soon afterwards, she and her new boyfriend, Tiny Tim [3], are observed by DEA agents in Canada, then later in Hawaii, with Chuck Frank [4], who in 1988 was the kingpin in one of the most infamous cocaine busts in history, resulting in the forced retirement of Canadian porn star, Ben's Johnson [5]. At first, both she and her boyfriend repeatedly deny knowing Chuck Frank but when finally cornered with the truth, they admitted to knowing Frank and traveling to meet him.
She later admits to knowing Victor Vector[6], but now claims he was only a Herbalife rep. She then says that her fabulous wealth is the reason why a $7000 check to the local Herbalife rep would go unnoticed. "I'm rich," she arrogantly boasts, "$7000 may seem like a lot of money to you, but to me even $200,000 isn't very much."
Street-smart Marryin' would never pay $7000 to a street vendor for a "genuine" Rolex watch; she's yet to explain why she paid $7000 for Herbalife products?
No explanation why the need to lie about it either.
In the meantime, Victor Vector is indicted for developing, manufacturing and selling a previously undetectable isomer of methamphetamine he names "clear." [7] DEA agents find a ledger detailing the deliveries of cocaine, heroin, marijuana and "clear" to a dozen high-profile users and convinces a few of them to turn State's evidence against him--corroborating your wife's cocaine habit along the way.
Her "daddy", a notorious pimp named Fill Nite [8], desperately wants to see her case disappear. He has a huge investment in her, dressing her up in schoolgirl outfits for all of his regular johns [9]. She's been one of the most productive hoes in the stable despite her addiction to coke and crank. Mr. Nite claims that when Marryin' first turned tricks for him she wasn't on drugs, therefore there's no reason for her to be on drugs now--expecting us to believe that years of wallowing in the gutter with every sleazebag on the street didn't affect her at all.
Even though Marryin' claims to be powered by Girl Scout cookies and milk, she offers no logical reason why she takes practice urinalysis tests [10] and guzzles cranberry juice and Golden Seal?
Which do you expect us to believe: you fell off a turnip truck, or the rear door to a fishmonger's truck came ajar and red herrings are scattered all over town?
[1] Marion Jones paid Victor Conte of BALCO a $7350 check for vitamins.
[2] Victor Conte of BALCO
[3] Tim Montgomery, former world recorder holder at 100m, banned by the IAAF for doping.
[4] Charlie Francis, coach of Canadian sprinter Ben Johnson [5]
[6] Image:
http://i16.tinypic.com/40ol5ps.jpg
[7] "Clear" was the previously undetectable steroid THG.
[8] Phil Knight, founder of Nike.
[9] "Regular johns" = the adoring public.
[10] It was revealed that Marion Jones has her urine sent away to Quest Diagnostics for T:E ratio tests that had no known medical use, except to beat Olympic drug testing.
