Then why can't this guy land a DI job to save his life??
"Switch to the left!"
Then why can't this guy land a DI job to save his life??
"Switch to the left!"
D1 isn't really about giving the job to the most competent coach.
Steve Folkerts get a life.
Pa-lez wrote:
Then why can't this guy land a DI job to save his life??
"Switch to the left!"
Maybe because then he'd have no time to coach guys like Young and Bizunah (2:13 and 27:50).
DI ain't about coaching, it's about being a door to door salesman and tricking 17 year olds into signing away the next four years of their life to live in places like Butt Crack, Indiana and Jelly Fish Bay, Florida. Who wants that? I'd rather have a 9 to 5 job too and coach the junior high team after work.
Pa-lez wrote:
Then why can't this guy land a DI job to save his life??
"Switch to the left!"
No, I agree. As as matter of fact, why can't Vigil land a DI job?
And what about this Terrance Mahon character....
And the Woodland's Danny Green...
I'm starting to see a pattern!
Dooh! And Will Freeman too!
in!
Anyone have any comment on how the first day of the Summit was?
saywhat?!?! wrote:
Anyone have any comment on how the first day of the Summit was?
Anyone care to share what was discussed at the Summit?
Was it any good...opinions on speakers/what was discussed?
I don't have time to get into any specifics, but I thought the clinic was excellent. The speakers were insightful, informative and eager to share their knowledge. The event was well-run and the Charlotte bar scene's hipness factor was significantly raised with the influx of track coaches.
CantTalkLong wrote:
I don't have time to get into any specifics, but I thought the clinic was excellent. The speakers were insightful, informative and eager to share their knowledge. The event was well-run and the Charlotte bar scene's hipness factor was significantly raised with the influx of track coaches.
Thanks for responding...I'm jealous!!
If you can share any more specifics later it would be appreciated.
Was there any word of them recording the summit on dvd like they did one year when they had it in Grinnell?
Thanks!
No word on a DVD for this summit but I doubt it because I never saw any video cameras filming the speakers.
The clinic was well worth attending.I was most impressed with freeman and mahon. And the ancillary dance clinic saturday night.
Anyone else have anything to share regarding the summit?
Very good weekend. Well worth the time and money.
Interesting notes:
- Old School periodization is dead. Instead work on everything all the time with only the emphasis changing with proximity to goal race. (i.e don't leave out speed work or threshold work or long runs)
- Tapering is often over done. You have three levers to play with: volume, quantity and density. Mess with more than one you can see a decline in fitness fairly quickly.
- Joe Vigil is the man. I hope I keep the passion for the sport as long as he has. Truely inspiring to here from the master.
- Volume is still king. Yes!
more later.....
also:
Why are the Kenyans so dominate. Its not genetic, its because they begin aerobic development work before most other cultures.
The average Kenyan runner has 18,000 more miles of aerobic development in them by the time they are 18 years old than does the average American runner.
Aerobic development is the aspect of running that takes the longest to develop to a world class level, yet in this country we tell kids not to run very much but rather work on speed which relatively quick to develop.
Some guy paying attention wrote:
also:
Why are the Kenyans so dominate. Its not genetic, its because they begin aerobic development work before most other cultures.
The average Kenyan runner has 18,000 more miles of aerobic development in them by the time they are 18 years old than does the average American runner.
Aerobic development is the aspect of running that takes the longest to develop to a world class level, yet in this country we tell kids not to run very much but rather work on speed which relatively quick to develop.
Thanks for the input...keep it coming.
Some guy paying attention wrote:
also:
Why are the Kenyans so dominate. Its not genetic, its because they begin aerobic development work before most other cultures.
The average Kenyan runner has 18,000 more miles of aerobic development in them by the time they are 18 years old than does the average American runner.
Aerobic development is the aspect of running that takes the longest to develop to a world class level, yet in this country we tell kids not to run very much but rather work on speed which relatively quick to develop.
This is what bothers me about these clinics... Statements like this are thrown around as fact. How did he come up with this data, how big of study was done? How much does a runner like Sammy Chelenga throw off the numbers. How do you come up with the total number of miles that each countries runners log by age 18....errrrrrr
I'll answer your question simply as follows:
I don't know the exact origin of this information or if its simply a generatization with some loose facts/numbers behind it.
But given the fact that comes from one of the most respected coaches in our sport (Joe Vigil), who has worked with athletes from across the globe, and traveled and consulted/coached extensively in Africa, Europe, Asia and the US, and has over 50 years of expereince at coaching this sport very successfully, I will tend to believe that the underlying premis of his statement is sound. He is one of only a small handful of people who has seen enough and spoken to enough to make this call.
But if it makes you feel better take your kids out to the track for daily speedwork rather than distance training, just don't complain when they get beat by someone better aerobicly developed and cry "genetics".
I like Vigil and don't have a problem with his Theory, but it(volume) is not the only factor. Most Kenyans don't run nearly as much as most "experts" want us to believe. There is much less structured training there than there is probably in any state in this country. Genetics IS a key and very real factor. Take a 1000 active grade school kids in this country - train them the "Vigil Way" or any other way that is considered "best" and how many sub 28 minute 10k runners will we have? Not crying anything...just trying to be realistic.
It all comes down to expereince and credibility.
Lets put you to your own standard.
What is the scientific research you have to support your position. What experience do you have coaching/working with peoples of different cultures. What travel have you done to see what they do first hand.
We know all this info on Vigil and now if you give us your research and experience we can compare the two and decide which person's opinion we will agree with.