Did Wesley Korir Start 5 Minutes Back and Run 2:13

if chicago does not give him his money, my guess is korir could get a lawyer to get him the money on a contingecy.

Wesley tried to register with the elite, but was forced to start with everyone else.

I definitely think Wesley is deserving of money but at the same time I don't think it's fair to deny others money as well. Maybe Chicago can come up with an extra 15k to pay Korir but let's remember that he didn't start with the others.

In my mind, there really are two sets of results. They are as follows:

Men's Elite Race

1 Cheruiyot, Evans KEN 02:06:25

2 Mandago, David KEN 02:07:37

3 Cherigat, Timothy KEN 02:11:39

4 Lauret, Martin NED 02:15:10

5 Mutai, Emmanuel KEN 02:15:36

Mass Race

1 Korir, Wesley K USA 02:13:53

I don't think it's right to deny Lauret 4th place money or Mutai 5th place money. They weren't beaten by Korir as they finished ahead of him. How can you deny them their money?

It drives me nuts that someone has already mentioned a lawsuit. If anything, Laruet and Mutai have a stronger legal case than Korir. The 1st 5 males and 5 females across the finish line are the one's Chicago are supposed to pay. No race uses chip times to pay people.

probably because nothing like this has happened to actually affect the outcome.

If anything it should tell the race to get rid of the 5min head start and Korir should get an agent petition harder to be with the elite starters.

WTF is the problem. He had the 4th fastest time...give him the money for getting 4th place (meaning he had the 4th fastest time). I don't understand what all the talk is about.

Was Wesley a "Top 100" participant (~debut, right)? Did the "Top 100" athletes start with the elites or with the masses 5 min. later?

Rocafella wrote:

WTF is the problem. He had the 4th fastest time...give him the money for getting 4th place (meaning he had the 4th fastest time). I don't understand what all the talk is about.

I agree. If anything it had to be more difficult to start with the masses and not have the elite field to pace off of.

But was he the 4th person to cross the finish line? I'm not trying to be a d*ck, but in most marathons it's pretty clear, place matters, not chip time.

Heathen wrote:

place matters, not chip time.

Then why have the pro field start 5 minutes ahead?

I'm guessing that the 5 minute head start was so the women could run a reasonably separate race.

I know NYC marathon says that prize money for the women is only available to those in the elite women's start. I would guess that Chicago had a similar setup, but I am far from certain.

Why didn't they just let the professional woman have a head start? Letting all of the elites go out early is just stupid.Is it just me or has Chicago officially become the worst organized major marathon in the world? Witness the slippery finish line debacle, the mismanagement of the high heat last year, and now this. I think some heads need to roll in the Chicago marathon admin.

mcgato wrote:

I'm guessing that the 5 minute head start was so the women could run a reasonably separate race.

I know NYC marathon says that prize money for the women is only available to those in the elite women's start. I would guess that Chicago had a similar setup, but I am far from certain.

txRUNNERgirl wrote:

I agree. If anything it had to be more difficult to start with the masses and not have the elite field to pace off of.

"off".

"off of" is not a proper term in the English language (a barbarism).

I remember watching the NYC marathon as a kid (must have been 10-15 years ago) and seeing some guy who wasn't allowed to start with the elites win the whole thing. The elites only started a bit in front of the masses, but it was still pretty cool.

Obviously they don't expect anyone from the "masses" to run 2:13. Can you blame them? I'm guessing this is exactly why they have the "place matters, not time" rule.

Also, you hit the nail on the head, there was a "pro" field, as in people who do this for a living and get paid.

Can anyone document a similiar situation where a runner from the second wave/corral ran fast enough to make the money?

If you are going by who croshed the finish line in order. Here it is:

1 Cheruiyot, Evans KEN 02:06:25

2 Mandago, David KEN 02:07:37

3 Cherigat, Timothy KEN 02:11:39

4 Lauret, Martin NED 02:15:10

5 Mutai, Emmanuel KEN 02:15:36

6 Reneau, Mike USA 02:16:19

7 Kipsang, William KEN 02:16:41

8 Njenga, Daniel KEN 02:17:33

9 Limo, Richard KEN 02:18:48

10 Korir, Wesley K USA 02:13:53 (2:18:53)

rojo wrote:

No race uses chip times to pay people.

NYRR.

"Official Time

In all NYRR scored races, each participant's official time, the net time, is recorded from when a participant crosses the start mats to when he or she crosses the finish mats. This official time is used to establish the order of finish and to determine award winners. However, the first male and female runner to cross the finish line will always be the winner of the race. "

Since when has proper english been something letsrun has based itself off of?

i also think lauret and mutai deserve their money. chicago should just pay an extra 15k this year and go back to a mass start next year.

Grammatica wrote:

txRUNNERgirl wrote:

I agree. If anything it had to be more difficult to start with the masses and not have the elite field to pace off of.

"off".

"off of" is not a proper term in the English language (a barbarism).

If you are going to play the grammar card with people, at least do it right. How's that dangling preposition? It should read "...and not have the elite field off which to pace" or something similar that doesn't sound quite so awkward.