Question for Letsrun:
1. What do you think the average high schooler (for both males and females) can run a mile and a 5k (on a road course, let's say) in?
2. What do you think the average high schooler (again for both males and females) doing cross country can run a mile and a 5k in?
Explain your reasonings.
TTT
Is this the average of all high school including non-runners or just people on an XC or track team?
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Please read the opening post.
Thanks.
Male
1. 7:00/24:30
2. 5:40/19:30
Men:
1) 35:00/9:30
Many will not be able to finish the 5k cause large skewness in the results. Most can get in a mile at a run, but again many will walk and some will have difficulty finishing. This will skew results.
2) 22:30/6:45
Again men slower than 26 or 27 will skew the average. On a team of 160 kids, our average was about 23:00 but ran a varsity centered low mileage program. Shitty coaches, never paid attention to anyone but top 7. The mile will be much better as much HS programs can train a kid to get through the mile quickly. Again on my 160 kid HS team average was about 7 minutes.
How about the average male and female high school times for the top 7 on any team (so the average male and female high school times of varsity runners across the nation)?
Without training? If so, then:
Mile: 8:30 for guys, 9:45 for girls
5K: 28:00 for guys, 32:00 for girls
Most guys could probably run a 7:30 mile without training, but all the fat out of shape dudes will pull down the average a lot.
kurz wrote:
Without training? If so, then:
Mile: 8:30 for guys, 9:45 for girls
5K: 28:00 for guys, 32:00 for girls
Most guys could probably run a 7:30 mile without training, but all the fat out of shape dudes will pull down the average a lot.
Just to clarify, this is assuming DNF's don't count in the 5K.
Interesting.
What do you think of this one:
How about the average male and female high school times for the top 7 on any team (so the average male and female high school times of varsity runners across the nation)?
Simple Math wrote:
Male
1. 7:00/24:30
2. 5:40/19:30
You think the average HS male who has done no training at all can run a 24:30 5K? Damn, are you on crack or something? I'd be surprised if more than half of them can even finish a 5K without walking.
Schraff wrote:
Interesting.
What do you think of this one:
How about the average male and female high school times for the top 7 on any team (so the average male and female high school times of varsity runners across the nation)?
Mile: 5:10 for guys, 6:00 for girls
5K: 17:00 for guys, 19:45 for girls
Smaller high schools with a small talent pool will drag down the average.
19:45 for a 5k seems to be a lot better than 6:00 for a mile (for girls).
You need to be more specific. Are you talking about rural kids, kids in rich areas, inner city school kids?
My guess is kids in rich areas would average a better time than kids in the inner cities who are poor and eat a shite diet.
I've worked in education for a long time and some of you are being very kind on the times.
here's my take:
male mile- 9:00 5k (excluding many DNF's)-30:00
female mile- 11:00 5k (" ") -38:00
Most HS kids are not in shape. In a large Hs of about 2000 students typically only 400-500 compete in ANY sport. Yes that's right 1500 would do nothing athletically and that is quite common.
8 min and 23 mins.
7 mins and 21 mins.
xc puts some base in you. no matter if some gay soccer player is faster, they still don't have the base. most high school xc runners don't break 6 min pace (m/f) so, my estimates stand.
You are crazy if you think the average high school boy can run 21 minutes for a 5K. Maybe you are thinking about high school boys in cross country and in soccer....?