Trying to do a little research on national class high school runners, either in the present or recent past, who have been mostly or completely self-coached. If you are or were someone like that, or know someone who was, it would be cool to hear from you.
Thanks
Mint Henk, Vermont.
In_Ithaca wrote:
Mint Henk, Vermont.
Really...you couldnt be more wrong! While he ran unattached his first two years, he trained his jr and sr year wih U-32, one of the better XC / Track programs in the nation. Their coach is Mark Chaplin, whose daughter, Tara, won the NCAA XC title a few years back.
http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=4618you need to be more definitive.
some kids, like myself, had terrible coaches and trained themselves. i did the workouts, but ran extra mileage, lifted, and did drills/core on my own time. plus, completely trained myself during the summer.
others are home schooled, like Josh McDougal, and researched how to train.
so where do you draw the line for "mostly or completely self-coached" - all of high school, a little, etc.
sorry for being nit-picky.
No prob with nitpicky ... Well, Josh might be a good example, as might be a number of home-schooled runners. Actually hadn't thought of the home-schooled angle, so that helps.But my thought was more on what you're describing as yourself - with either a coach who isn't great or maybe not really having a team to train with.Email me if you'd like. Thanks
And so it begins... wrote:
you need to be more definitive.
some kids, like myself, had terrible coaches and trained themselves. i did the workouts, but ran extra mileage, lifted, and did drills/core on my own time. plus, completely trained myself during the summer.
others are home schooled, like Josh McDougal, and researched how to train.
so where do you draw the line for "mostly or completely self-coached" - all of high school, a little, etc.
sorry for being nit-picky.
Back to Dyestat with the kiddies, Steve. No muckracking allowed on LetsRun.
Shoo wrote:
Back to Dyestat with the kiddies, Steve. No muckracking allowed on LetsRun.
Ha ha! I love it. Sports coverage can be very rewarding to the obsessive compulsive high school distance runner.
Are you gathering information with a specific ad hoc thesis, or just gathering?
Katelyn Bastert of IL fame
2006 Footlocker finalist
You should more clearly define what mostly or completely self-coached is.
Does that mean they aren't on a team?
Many states have clear team member rules that basically state that you go to practice every day and don't practice on your own
They state that but there is obviously extra practices
Sorry u-32 is not one of the top xc programs in the nation, not even close. Yea, the coach had some success running the legs off his kids (including his daughter) with 100 mile weeks in HS. Other than that???
magness
I believe Alan Culpepper ditched his HS team in El Paso and trained and raced on his own. He was coached by his dad, who I think was a good miler in his day, so I don't know if this fits your criteria.
It could be either way. Thanks!
sddfskr wrote:
You should more clearly define what mostly or completely self-coached is.
Does that mean they aren't on a team?
Many states have clear team member rules that basically state that you go to practice every day and don't practice on your own
Wrote recently about one elite who is (mostly) self-coached (Ashley Brasovan) and wondering if there have been more, past or present. Thanks.
terps wrote:
Are you gathering information with a specific ad hoc thesis, or just gathering?
Not self coached, but left their crappy high school and used private coach and/or parent for help: Molly Huddle & Lindsey Sherf.
klgr wrote:
Not self coached, but left their crappy high school and used private coach and/or parent for help:
this is me. might not be a FL qualifier this year, but i could be a sub-16 junior.
Jackie Moon wrote:
I believe Alan Culpepper ditched his HS team in El Paso and trained and raced on his own. He was coached by his dad, who I think was a good miler in his day, so I don't know if this fits your criteria.
Culpepper did ditch his Coronado team after his junior year. He was coached by Sam Walker though.
If I recall, Sam was guiding him since Junior High through the Summer Programs.
joe M wrote:
Culpepper did ditch his Coronado team after his junior year. He was coached by Sam Walker though.
If I recall, Sam was guiding him since Junior High through the Summer Programs.
I knew I should have included an "I think" before "he was coached by his dad."
Also, is it true that the Torres brothers didn't really train under the head coach at Wheeling High? That's something I heard, but wasn't sure how reliable it was.