Guys vs Girls with college academics

There are probably more guys who don't care, because our culture almost worships the rebellious, lazy male stereotype. It is practically encouraged for men to live recklessly and drop out of school. However, rest assured there are plenty of girls who **** up. They are probably just less vocal about it and less proud of it.

runner/cyclist/driver wrote:

I wonder why they are in college at all.

Well, I think the ease of underage drinking (often at low/no cost) and availability of sex are certainly incentives.

At least they were for the college students that I coached...

Statistical review shows that the AVERAGE female IQ is higher than that of the AVERAGE male; however, males occupy more of the tails (i.e., morons & geniuses).

In terms of work: women may be more studious, owing perhaps to greater susceptibility to peer pressure (i.e., a continuation of high school toolism).

That said, stats also show a greater concentration of females in the squishies... (def a dearth of women in physics, engineering, mathematics, etc.).

Even though there are no formal restrictions on people doing anything they want, many professions for high-school grads still break down along gender lines and men get the better deal.

Think of the consequences for dropping out of school.

For men: become a mechanic, a plumber, a carpenter, a mason...

for women: become a day care provider, long-term care provider...

Put another way, imagine your twenty year old son comes to you and tells you he wants to drop out of school. Then imagine that his twenty year old twin sister says the same thing.

Which are you more worried about?

Currently, 57% of 4 year incoming college freshmen are female. Men are also more likely to drop out. College graduates are now 60%+ female.

"Let us put men and women together

See which one is smarter

Some say men, but I say no

Women run the men like a puppet show

It ain't me

It's the people that say

Men are leading the women astray

But I say, it's the women today

Smarter than the man in every way

That's right

The women are smarter"

4runner wrote:

Even though there are no formal restrictions on people doing anything they want, many professions for high-school grads still break down along gender lines and men get the better deal.

I would argue that men CHOOSE (not GET) the better deal: men CHOOSE to be lobstermen, crab fishermen, roustabouts, oil derrick workers, steel workers, etc. etc. Women, being smarter, drive up to the steel mill and say "Thelma, you are NUTS! I am OUTTA here!"

So don't get me going on any gender-wage gap discrepancy...

Supply. Demand. More folks (women) vying for office jobs = wages down; fewer skilled folks in high-demand nastiness (e.g., wildcat oil) = wages up.

So: perhaps the observation that women seem more studious in college indeed reflects their understanding of having to compete more fiercely to get the cushy office job...

Funny thing is: women going into "traditionally male" professions often make more $$$. Women in tech are highly coveted, for example. Women in law are actively recruited as well. Women increasing OWN financial services...

lease wrote:

Well, I think the ease of underage drinking (often at low/no cost) and availability of sex are certainly incentives.

At least they were for the college students that I coached...

Here's what I don't understand though: if you're working part time, going to school, and partying, wouldn't it be easier to just move to a college town and get a job and party and skip the school part? I worked with people who basically did this (most spent some time in school first). Why spend thousands of dollars a semester on tuition that will basically be wasted? If you're worried about the availability of alcohol as an underage individual, just take some tiny piece of the $4,000 you'll save on tuition this semester and offer it to a 21 year old in exchange for booze. College is just so damn expensive that I can't imagine attending with no hope of getting some return on the investment.

The underage drinking is not at low/no cost if you're paying tuition that you wouldn't otherwise pay in order to get it.

Girls: work harder, get higher number on transcripts

Guys: don't obsess over 1% differences on transcripts, enjoy living, do better in life

I noticed something kinda interesting when I was in college although it may only apply to certain types of schools. Obviously when you're a student athlete you hear a lot about team GPAs and stuff well I went to a smaller business school where the first couple years of primarily focused on more liberal art type classes while the final two year are more focused on your major. So after paying attention to a lot of peoples grades and team GPAs and attrition rates in lower level sports (i'm not talking D1 basketball and football but they dont really belong in this anyway.) And please let me know if you disagree...

So what I noticed was that girls tended to do much better then the guys did in their first year or two of college with many girls getting 4.0s. However, later on in college the men start to accel alittle bit more then the girls in their majors. Now I know at my school and many other similar schools you may have had 10-15 guys and 10-15 girls that come in as freshman and by senior year maybe 5-7 of the original 10-15 are still competing (a lot quit or fine other sources of enjoyment in college.) So my thought is that Team GPAs are alittle skewed by the fact that you may have 10 frosh girls averaging 3.7 while the guys average 3.0 and then there are fewer athletes that are juniors and seniors when the guys might be getting 3.5 and the girls 3.2.

Obviously this is a generalization and there are plenty of smart girls but again I went to a smaller school that focused more on finance, accounting and technology.

Your thoughts...