Does Wariner have the endurance to run under 4:00 in the mile? It seems to me that someone who can run sub 44 should be able to cruise through four 60's and kick it in a little on the last one.
opinions?
Does Wariner have the endurance to run under 4:00 in the mile? It seems to me that someone who can run sub 44 should be able to cruise through four 60's and kick it in a little on the last one.
opinions?
To answer your first question, Wariner doesn't have the endurance to run sub 4 in the mile. Running a 43 second 400 and 4 min mile work different energy systems.
With proper training over a year or more, Wariner could possibly run a sub 4.
I bet he could pull a sub 2 marathon too, I mean 68 seconds is crawling for someone with sub 44 speed.
yjtjerye wrote:
To answer your first question, Wariner doesn't have the endurance to run sub 4 in the mile. Running a 43 second 400 and 4 min mile work different energy systems.
With proper training over a year or more, Wariner could possibly run a sub 4.
Im not sure about that last part
He may not even be able to break 5. You guys have no clue.
As his top-end speed starts to decline, he should start moving up in events. He could run 400 at these Olympics, 800 at 2012, mile at 2016, and maybe 10k at 2020.
For someone running 43 at their peak, they should be able to lose a lot of sharpness and still be able to crank out the kind of quarters needed to be competitive in a distance event.
Imagine a track athlete winning medals at 5 olympiads ranging from 400 to 10k!
I think it would take several years of dedicated mile training for him to have a snowball's chance in hell of running sub 4.
Johann Gambleputty wrote:
I think it would take several years of dedicated mile training for him to have a snowball's chance in hell of running sub 4.
And what do you base this on? Without any sort of evidence, comments like this are just as silly as people saying that he could easily run 1:42 in the 800.
Couldn't break 5? Please.
I think Wariner needs to worry about breaking 44 and winning a medal in Beijing first.
Intergalactic wrote:
Johann Gambleputty wrote:I think it would take several years of dedicated mile training for him to have a snowball's chance in hell of running sub 4.
And what do you base this on? Without any sort of evidence, comments like this are just as silly as people saying that he could easily run 1:42 in the 800.
This opinion is based on my experience with 400m runners vs. mile runners and their respective training. I have witnessed many a 400m runner attempt 800m races or even cross country, and most of the time, it was ugly. The mile takes aerobic strength at a level far beyond what most 400m runners possess. It takes time to build that endurance and matters little that you may have blistering speed at 400m. You still have to put in the work. For most people, achieving the endurance to run sub 4 takes several years. Despite Wariner's considerable talent, I believe he would be no exception.
Then again Ive seen a big, i mean 5'10" 180lb 400m runner who does around 47, and 22 in the 200, who is definitly a sprinter, run the 800 off no 800 training in 1:56, also seen 51 guys who are sprinter trained run no slower than 2:01. So i guess you havent seen enough of it, or maybe seen shitty ones.
Get a better sample population
haha wrote:
Then again Ive seen a big, i mean 5'10" 180lb 400m runner who does around 47, and 22 in the 200, who is definitly a sprinter, run the 800 off no 800 training in 1:56, also seen 51 guys who are sprinter trained run no slower than 2:01. So i guess you havent seen enough of it, or maybe seen shitty ones.
Get a better sample population
A 47 400m runner running a 1:56 800 is a far cry from a 44 guy running 3:59. Get a clue. 47 is a solid time for a DI 400m runner. 1:56 won't get you to the starting line in most HS state championships. Sub 4 is world class - 1:56 is a far cry from running at a world class level.
Taking nothing from Wariner because he is an amazing talent, but he would need years of aerobic work to break 4:00.
Forget about your 47/1:56 guy - this proves nothing - other than that guy is running for 800m what he should be able to run - the events are similar enough for a lack of aerobic development to be overcome with raw speed and an intelligent and controlled approach to a longer race distance. The mile is far more aerobic. Looking over what is available about Hart's system - Jeremy is 1000s of miles of continuous running before sniffing a 4:00 mile and probably even a sub 4 1500m.
If he took a little while to bulk up, could he throw the hammer 300 feet?
Jeremy Wariner will break 4:00 for mile the same day he breaks 2:00 for 800.
never~!!
I'll put my money the idea that he could survive a Japanese game show.........
just because he is skinny for a sprinter doesn't mean he can do distance
Does he want to run the mile? My guess is no or he'd have been running that and maybe (most likely) not on the same competitive level as his 400, so we may not even have had him on the radar (or heard his name) if he trained for the mile. But poster asked could he run a sub 4 mile...first he'd have to want to. Second his fast/slow twitch fibers need about 50% blend, third it's a little too late at this time in his life for him to even think about it.
My guess is he and his team mates will have some fun at the Olympic 400 and that is what its all about for him as it should be.
Absolutely. Sure ... the guy has natural talent ... wow ... what a revelation.
But he did not get up one day 7 years ago and run 46. He trained damd hard
to get to where he is now. Dammmd hard. You don't know how hard he
trained to get where he is because you have never come within a continent
of doing what he has done ... I don't give a fat fry what you run.
If he was to train for the Mile ... the same way he trained to become the best in the World in the 440 ... you better believe in a year he'd go under 4:00.
He aready has the habit ... he would only need to change the workouts on
the page three times a week. He'd go a long easy 15 once a week. He'd
run 6 x 880 once a week in 2:10 to begin (with a 3 min. rest) dropping
conservatively twice a month (comparable workouts of course ... not the exact same ... but the exact same principle). He do a step down ladder once
a week ... 220/440/880/Mile/880/440/220. The first time he does it his
mile will be in 6 minutes ... dropping within 3 months to 5 minutes ... within
6 months to 4:20 ... all other numbers in the set following suit.
There be a time trial once every 18 days ... 880/Mile/2Mile. His first time
trial is 36 days after beginning the Program; and its an 880 in 2:00. The fourth time he TT the 880 he is shooting for 1:54.
YOU CONTINUE WHAT YOU THINK HE NEEDS TO DO TO DROP 4.
haha wrote:
who is definitly a sprinter
You definitely just made the most common spelling error on LetsRun. I often wonder why it's the one word that seems to stump almost everyone. It's just "definite" with "ly" at the end.