Wariner moving up to 800m-Any Predictions?

1:36.6

the guy can run 43.3 for 400m. He could slow down 5 secs and a 48.3 would feel like jogging. Give him two years of endurance training, and he could do back-to-back 48.3's. The world has never had such a fast 400m guy try the 800m.

He explicitely told me two years ago that it'd never happen.

OAC Insider wrote:

He explicitely told me two years ago that it'd never happen.

explicitely?? What does that mean?

He might be able to run 1:45, but so what? Wariner moving up to run so-so 800s would be like Peyton Manning retiring from football to be a .260 hitter in the majors.

also thinker abouter wrote:

He might be able to run 1:45, but so what? Wariner moving up to run so-so 800s would be like Peyton Manning retiring from football to be a .260 hitter in the majors.

Or Michael Jordan retiring from basketball to...Oh wait

JUANT0RENA was Olympic champ in both events ,400 AND 800. cool shades will be lucky to win the 400 this year and won against poor competition in 04.Lacks the guts to run the 800 IMHO.

2:45

Um, he's not really moving up to 800m though, is he? Dick!

2:14

Last 200m in 31!

JW's 200m speed tells me that he’s truly is a sprinter, a 200/400 guy. Mark or Danny Everett (I get the two confused) and Juantorena were 400/800 guys; I don't think either one them ever ran under 21 in a 200m, which says they were not pure sprinters relative to their ability in longer races.

Other great 400 guys like Butch Reynolds, Lee Evans, Edwin Moses (H), Danny Harris (H) and Steve Lewis have all run small meet and time trial 800s between 1:49 to 1:55, which is about equal to a H.S. star. Obviously this is all w/o specifically training for it training for it; perhaps if they trained for it they could get down to 1:47 -or being generous I will say 1:45. (Why would a 43x quarter milers, who is one of the best in the world, participate in an event where they would not be in the top 20. What is interesting, is that a lot of these guys have run 1:16/1:17 600s; you would think they could cruise 27 seconds for the last 200 and run a 1:43 800. It doesn't work like that, that last 200 taps into an aerobic system, which they have not developed and they would be practically jogging the last 100 meters.

(I am certain JW and MJ fall into that 1:49-1:55 category as well. I am sure they have run many-many 800s, but Clyde Hart does not publish training times, so we will never know.) People on this board have a difficult time understanding it, but there is a difference between a sprinter and a middle distance runner. I’ve coached some 47x 400 meter runners who where built something like JW and could not run a 5 minute mile. I don’t doubt JW could quickly become a world-class 800m runners if he focused on it, but could he get down to 1:42…I don’t think so.

TrackCoach wrote:

(I am certain JW and MJ fall into that 1:49-1:55 category as well.

quite a broad range, dont you think>>??

if you were an 800 guy, you'd realize there is a huge difference between a 1:49 and 1:55, or even a 1:49 and a 1:50.

next time, for the restoration of our intelligence, lets please specify a 2 second differencial between what a half-miler can accomplish. thank you.

btw, neither of them are sub-150.

you heard it hear first wrote:

1:36.6

Nice. Laughed out loud.

Oh for joy, it's another "Wariner 800" thread. God, I've so missed these.

I bet he could break 1:50, but not by much.

I am basing this off of the fact that FSU made Ricardo Chambers run a 800 couple years ago and he ran 1:52 I beleive.

Now Ricardo is about 1.5 seconds slower in the 400 then JW and probably not as strong aerobically so I am going to say JW could squeeze off a 1:49.

He would run 2:00 because he'd be so focused on his start he'd forget there are 759 meters left after he gets away clean.

His time would depend on one key factor:

Whether he starts with the opposite arm/leg forward.

There's a problem though. Wariner does absolutely no distance training. He does speed speed speed but never runs over 450 meters at one time in practice.

That could cause some issues 600m into an 8.

I seem to remember a few years back that Mark Richardson and Iwan Thomas (both 44.4 guys I think) ran an 800m at a BMC (so it was rabbited) and they ran like 1:55/6.

I think most of us think that a 400m guy should be able to feel comfortable through a 48sec 400m as they can run a 43 400m. However if you stick them on 800m training they won’t be running 43, surely they’d be running 45/46 for a flat out 400, so their 400m split on an 800 would be more like 50 to 52 and then they’d be trying to hang on, which I think could be difficult as they wouldn’t have had the years of strength that we have built up in our 800m training.

Camoo wrote:

Oh for joy, it's another "Wariner 800" thread. God, I've so missed these.

Letsrun rules state that any white 400 runner is actually an 800 runner in denial. This will never change.