I am going into my junior year of college and my goal for track next year is to break 4 in the 1500. My current PRs are a 4:09(ran twice) 1500m, a 4:28 mile, 2:38 1000m, 2:01 (ran twice)800m, and 9:33 for the 3k. How realistic is my goal for this year or next year? What should I do to accomplish this?
I would assume that you need more mileage... Just ramp it up to like 80-90 over the summer be sure to make friends with tempos and steady states keep your mileage high till like next march of next near and do a shitload of fast intervals after that ... seriously and running fast on runs is not always a bad thing
There is a thread by Eddy Lee about breaking 4 minutes and your times are not much different than his. Judging from you 800 time I suspect you should be able to run 4:15 or so in the mile. This is not a great sign for you. I am concerned that your 1000 time is already showing signs of slowing to a degree that maintaining your speed might be a problem. I would want to see a 400 time and know more of your training history. Without an indicator that you have sprint speed or that you engage in minimal training, I would guess your probably close to your potential.
That being said, I am never one to say don't give it your best. Will is an amazing asset. Best of success to you.
A 2:01 800m time is displays 4:15 potential? Even if it did how is this "not a great sign"? The guy is trying to break 4:00 in the 1500, not the mile! I think your logic is a little off. I would say 1:57-1:58 and maybe we are talking about relevant speed for a 4:15 mile (the the very least). I think he definitly needs to work on some aerobic base, but 80-90 miles is unnecessary. 60-70's should be more than plenty to work up to. Truth is, there is no single appropriate answer for your question. There are multiple facets of your training that may need change, but without seeing you run or your training program you will only get speculation.
going to have to go one further and say that really 155-156 is 415 speed....maybe 157 at the slowest.
my conversion might be off a bit, but you didnt really add anything. The point still being that th poster is probably at potential unless we see speed or deficient training. The times currently being run are internally consistent.
Actually, I know a guy who ran 1:59.7 in the 800 and that was his fastest, but he ran a 4:18 1600m. 2:01, that would really be pushing it, though. Even if you did it with just a 2:01, you're probably not up to your full potential in the 800.
obviously. 4:28 mile and 9:33 3k are worlds apart.
But you're not at your potential 'til your mid-twenties for the mile (later for longer distances).
you should be able to break 4. I'd say to do it you'd need to be able run under 2 for 800m and at least under 9 for 3000m, probably closer to 8:45, depending on what type of runner you are. i.e no speed but good top end speed you'd have to be able to run 8:40, where as if you're a speed man you could run under 4 for fifteen but only just get under 9 for a 3km. very tricky question. you're 3km is not good though. ive run a 9:35 and my best for 1500m is only around 4:18.