Powell Is Better Than Gay

And the Patriots were the best team in the NFL but the Super Bowl is more important.

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World Championships 2007

Ask any runner whose world record has been broken but also has gold medals which one means more. Their medal will always be theirs, but the world record will never theirs again. Just because they ran faster that anyone ever had on one particular day doesn't mean as much as beating all the best in the world in the same race when they're in their best shape.

World Title. Easily. That's what all the training is supposed to be about.

Hello! You play to win the game!

Yes this is true my drugs are better than Tyson's drugs here in Jamaica mon we do not test too well mon

Tyson Gay is quite a bit better than Powell. Fasuba from Nigeria might also be better than Powell.

Yanqui wrote:

Tyson Gay is quite a bit better than Powell. Fasuba from Nigeria might also be better than Powell.

How?

They're slower than he is, how are they better?

Tyson Gay winning championships makes him the better clutch performer. Asafa Powell running 9.74 makes him the better runner. It's that simple, mate.

The only way to compare two elite runners is to get them head to head on the same track in the same conditions. You can't look at time alone. There are way too many variables that go into a fast time. You need a fast track w/ a tailwind (but at the same time, it must be less than 2 m/s), and warm weather but not too warm. This has to occur at a time when you happen to be peaking in your training and you have to be perfect on that day.

Gay hasn't had all of that come together yet. He just runs his best when it counts. That is the name of the game.

It's all about winning

Head to head is the true test.

It rules out all the variables exept the Drugs.

Better at what? Because we've ruled out sprinting.

To truly know who is better they must race each other many times.

Gay won Worlds but ducked Powell the rest of the year.

Powell ran faster than any man ever. And every man has had many many chances to run faster.

gotta point out that powell won their first meeting (at least i think it was their first meeting), running 9.77 to gay's 9.84.

i think that was zurich a couple summers back, but i could be wrong. anyway it was powell's 3rd 9.77.

that was a sweet race.

team powell wrote:

I'm sorry brojos, but running 5 legal sub-9.80's is way more badass than two WC golds.

So Gay has won a couple races. That doesn't make him better overall, that just makes him better on that particular day.

The fact remains that Powell is the faster sprinter.

Think about it: what would you prefer, to be able to say that you ran faster than 7 guys who were in a race with you once, or that you beat everyone who's ever stepped onto a track?

Gold medal... 9.74.... gold medal.... 9.74.....

You know what, I'll take the 9.74.

Alot of guys have won gold medals, but only one guy has ever run 9.74.

\What you fail to realize is that Powell has gotten lucky and Gay has gotten unlucky. Their top marks are about even (slight edge to Gay?) once you control for wind, etc. In fact, until the day he set the WR, Powell had ZERO of the top 5 or 6 marks in the world (Gay had 2 or 3).

When you take this into account, along with the fact that not only has Gay beaten Powell when it mattered, but that Powell has failed repeatedly at the top level, Powell's 'superiority' is questionable.

I would say that they are about even, but realize also that one of these two is doubling and the other cannot and that is the final clue as to which is the better sprinter.

toro wrote:

To truly know who is better they must race each other many times.

Gay won Worlds but ducked Powell the rest of the year.

Powell ran faster than any man ever. And every man has had many many chances to run faster.

But not with the right wind - Gay had a just-over-the-allowable mark better than Powell's (9.77s) WR, then had head winds in two other races that were better than any of Powell's WRs; only his one super day has he done better. And as I noted in another post, Gay beat Powell when it mattered and then won the 200m as well to be ranked #1 in the 100, #1 in the 200, while Powell was #2 in the 100, and number ? (>10) in the 200 and probably more like #40. If he was so much better in the 100, he should be in the ballpark in the 200, but he is not, and that is why he loses that races that he does -- he cannot maintain the speed.

if I had to choose I think I'd rather be gay.

If you're a professional runner, and your pay is determined by your rankings (which are in turn dependent on your win/loss record) why would you line up against the #2 man in the world if you're well below 100%? This is a business.

26mi235 wrote:

What you fail to realize is that Powell has gotten lucky and Gay has gotten unlucky. Their top marks are about even (slight edge to Gay?) once you control for wind, etc. In fact, until the day he set the WR, Powell had ZERO of the top 5 or 6 marks in the world (Gay had 2 or 3).

When you take this into account, along with the fact that not only has Gay beaten Powell when it mattered, but that Powell has failed repeatedly at the top level, Powell's 'superiority' is questionable.

I would say that they are about even, but realize also that one of these two is doubling and the other cannot and that is the final clue as to which is the better sprinter.

Their top marks are not "about even"... Powell's are way better!