Would your wife stand by you at a press conference if you were caught with hookers??

wait till she finds out Kristen is black ,

Not I, but some did. Never been my style, not that I'm perfect, you understand...

I watched Spitzer's resignation speech, on live TV. Ego much, or what? Insufferable. I kept waiting for her to grab him by the throat and throttle him.

I don't understand why the wives stick by these creeps, other than for the money.

Examples:

Jackie.

Hillary.

Now Silba.

(shakes head)

In my mind, it is not she who breaks up the family or faces humiliation and embarrassment...those all go to Mr. Spitzer's.

An let's get a few other things straight. First, this one NOT a one time indiscretion as someone else characterized it. From the reports I've read, this behavior was repeated several times, most recently over the course of the last six months. Secondly, this would not be the public spectale it is were it not for the fact that Eliot Spitzer held himself up the a pargon of virture..the righter of wrongs...The Law Enforcer. Unfortunately, he couldn't live up to his own high standards.

every man needs a hobby

8 times in the last 8 months...that's quite a commitment to the hobby!

Flagpole wrote:

As wrong as I think it was for Spitzer to have done that, I do wonder if our quick harsh judgement is a mostly American trait (would like to hear others from Europe respond to that). If a politician in France were caught with hookers, it would hardly make the news (I think, but I could be wrong), and in fact many would be proud of him for showing his virility.

Not sure why anyone is ever shocked by this kind of thing. There are hookers in every corner of the world, and they have to have clients to make money.

Flagpole, I sure hope you're not implying we should look to France or Europe for setting our moral standards. Just because France might think there is nothing wrong with a U.S. governor involved in prostitution doesn't mean we should dismiss this as no big deal.

Eliot Spitzer has got to be one of the biggest political hypocrites of all time and there have been many. This guy is a bigger scum bag than Bill Clinton. Here is a guy who went around building a reputation of being tough on criminals, wall street, and yes prostitution rings and he's doing it himself!! Give me a break.

Also, if you don't think this is any big deal, think again. He has a wife and 3 teenage daughters. He not only has ruined his owned reputation but has also disgraced his children. Now they have to live the rest of their lives knowing that their father was big scum bad hypocrite. How would you like to be a child of a dirtbag like this - hearing jokes about your father on TV and having people snicker behind your back? You think that's no big deal? But you see, that's one of the things that separates us from France. France wouldn't think of it that way.

One last comment. How many of you really think that this was a total surprise to his wife? They guy has been doing this for almost 10 years. She responed very much like Hilary Clinton. I don't think it surprised her. As someone else mentioned, she's a Harvard educated lawyer and she's not an idiot like her husband.

I am not shocked by men (or women) having extra-marital affairs. People have sexual needs and desires, that's natural. 'Affairs' are quite common in France, you are right. But here, there is such a disconnect between the public persona Spitzer had created (Mr. two goody shoes--hope that's the right expression?) and who he actually is...that, I find just plain scary.I can't stand the hypocrisy and double-standard. He goes after prostitution rings and he's a member himself. He doesn't tolerate any wrongdoing and he's participating in an illegal activity.Also, the difference is, in France, politicians don't pay for sex...they get it for free :-)Anyway...I feel bad for his daughters and his wife. This is really a traumatic event for the kids.

Flagpole wrote:

As wrong as I think it was for Spitzer to have done that, I do wonder if our quick harsh judgement is a mostly American trait (would like to hear others from Europe respond to that). If a politician in France were caught with hookers, it would hardly make the news (I think, but I could be wrong), and in fact many would be proud of him for showing his virility.

look many things are worse than commiting adultery with a prostitute- its just some men's recreation like golf or running.I am not gay or have I ever been gay.

Alice Runner wrote:

Also, the difference is, in France, politicians don't pay for sex...they get it for free :-)

Yes, it's all free, the government pays for it, it's called 'Universal Prostitute Care." And in France they have 8 weeks of paid vacation, so we should have that here too - along with the 20% unemployment, er, I mean 20% of the French have 52 weeks vacation every year! France is so great, can't you see? We should all long for the day our country follows the French model.

gonzo wrote:

The Father-in-law (Spitzer's Dad) is reportedly worth a Half BILLION dollars.

Think she's gonna cut off the gravy train?

NOT gonna happen.

New York law guarantees half of the assets to a spouse after 10 years of marriage. The only problem here is that Silda isn't married to the father-in-law.

My wife told me she'd be in the audience with a .44

Ask yourself this: If you found out your wife was spending thousands of dollars of your families money to go out and suck the dicks of a bunch of chippendale dancers and come home and lie through her teeth about it for the last x amount of years would you stand up in front of live tv that the entire world is watching and support her?

gonzo wrote:

I don't understand why the wives stick by these creeps, other than for the money.

So, what you're saying is that these women shouldn't try and forgive the man that they love and are married to (and have kids from)? Just because he had sex with prostitutes doesn't mean he didn't love his wife...for men, love and sex can be separated in their minds...rather easily in fact.

There is a lot more than money involved...like they did have a life together. The wife has to go through a lot of thought and counseling to make the right decision, and Spitzer needs to get counseling for his addiction as well.

I'd bet there were underlying issues in the marriage and in his past that were the cause....which means that if they want to continue their marriage, they'll need help.

But first, they, together, need to figure out if it makes sense to continue or not.

Yep wrote:

Ask yourself this: If you found out your wife was spending thousands of dollars of your families money to go out and suck the dicks of a bunch of chippendale dancers and come home and lie through her teeth about it for the last x amount of years would you stand up in front of live tv that the entire world is watching and support her?

1) I'd be disappointed for sure.

2) I'd evaluate if she lied outright, or just didn't tell the whole truth (subtle difference, I know)

3) I would try and understand the why's of her behavior - which would only be able to come out through counseling.

4) I would NOT throw in the towel immediately....that's an irrational response in an emotional time.

5) I'd have her tested for STD's immediately

In the end, I take my vows very seriously - in sickness and in health - and there is such a thing sexual addiction. And there is such a thing as forgiveness. Now, I know the lines are different for everybody, but for me, the line hasn't been crossed [even if my wife were making it with Chippendales dancers at $5Gs per time], and I'd make my evaluation on the individual's ability to make positive changes.

And, just because the woman is standing there with her husband doesn't mean she is ok with his behavior. They are standing up there as a team (for now), and she is probably showing her commitment to her family, and that she hasn't yet decided her course of action.

It's all very individual. For me the line would be if my wife were having a true relationship with the "other man" - ya know, the "I love you" type of relationship, not just sex.

BTW, my initial reaction was to joke about the Chippendales thing by saying something along the lines of

"hell, if you're going to pay for something like that, you better invite me to watch next time."

But I resisted....

My answer to the OP is no. Will never get married and will never patronize a hooker. If if ain't for free it ain't for me.

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I do agree with what you're saying. I was just wondering aloud if we were judging too quickly and too harshly. My open mindedness makes me consider that (being serious here). I don't have the benefit of growing up in another culture after all.

It seems that the really bad parts of this all are:

1) It was prostitutes and not just an affair with some woman.

2) He has proven to be a huge hypocrit.

3) He didn't even use his own money for this.

I definitely feel bad for his daughters and wife.

High level politics is really just a different world. All guys, even happily married ones, may commit "adultery of the mind" (or however Jimmy Carter put it). But the men who are successful at politics are risk-takers with moral ambiguity, and the combination of power and money makes them desirable to women.

It's interesting that Spitzer would pay for a hooker when he could seduce an intern or staffer for free.

In any event, the point is that every political wife KNOWS this. They are not that naive. The wives of these politicans are not like most other women; they are mostly just as shewd and cunning as the husbands.

He's a cold bastard.