This f***ing drives me crazy. I\\\'m a sophomore in college. I ran about 800 miles over the summer, with an average training pace around 6:30 per mile. This kid comes in, lucky if he ran 300 miles, averaging around 7:40 per mile, and he beats me in every race during xc. He got injured after xc was over, and so he cross trained, in a really half ass manner, and he just beat me in a workout today, and he only started running again like a week ago. How the hell does this work? It pisses me off.
He just is better than you.
Maybe you get psyched out during competitions or leave your best running during training and not for races.
Either he has more talent than you. OR he's up in your head and he's a better racer. He really believes he's better than you and has no fear of whipping your ass so he does every single time.
natural, God given ability.
ummmm, it's possible because you're not him, and he's not you.
Everyone's different. You should stop concentrating on others training and just do what you can to be the best you can. Relax guy.
Maybe 800 is too much. Maybe 6:30 is too fast. Maybe he is fresh and you're worn down a little. Maybe he does his easy runs easy because he runs his ass off in workouts. Maybe he is a great racer and can really get 100% out of himself in situations where most of us can only get 95%. Who knows? Everyone here has been beaten by someone that they should have whooped on, its just the way of the sport. Some people are gifted, some have to work at it. 'tis the way of the world.
I actually ran 1100 miles this summer, but I played it down since you sounded like such a clown bragging about all the miles you ran in the summer. And yeah, I ran most of those miles between 7:00 and 8:00 pace because that's how slow I needed to run them.
And yeah, I got injured at the end of the season, but I caught it early, and just cross-trained so it would heal and let me lay down some base mileage for the spring. And just like my summer running, I don't make a big deal about how hard I cross-train, I just do it. In a way, it was a nice break; not being able run reminded me how much I love the sport.
Anyway, about today's workout... sorry about beating you. I didn't realize we were racing.
not too happy wrote:
This f***ing drives me crazy. I\'m a sophomore in college.
Hopefully by the time you are a senior you'll not worry about what others do and focus your energies on yourself.
1. talent
2. you are weak mentally
not too happy wrote:
...he just beat me in a workout today...
This may be a clue.
Assuming the link to it is still on the front page, I urge you to (re-)read wejo's thoughts about what contributed to his postcollegiate improvement.
Otherwise: Because different things work for different people, he may find a particular kind of workout easier than you do. Conversely, he find some workouts (a strong one-hour run, say) much more difficult.
He may also have done a better job of picking his grandparents.
Dude, are you guys on the same team? I'm talking about not too happy and too happy.
He has more talent than you do. Don't fight it. Allow it to motivate you.
cry. that's you're only hope.
i mean, you are a chick, right?
I remember being really PISSED off about the same thing my sophomore year........ in high school.
My best friend and long time training partner was feeling especially frustrated after a 10k, after a period of several years when he'd not been training as seriously as before. We were close at all distances though he was usually faster at less than two miles while I was faster at the distances.
We were in our 30's then which was several decades ago. He sat in my car in the rain after the race talking about how frustrating it was that some overweight "jogger" had beat him and it turned out was running less mileage, then he burst into tears. It was rather emotional seeing my friend so upset.
I let him cry a bit (trying not to myself) then said, "Well (name), I've always had to run more mileage to try and keep up with you". He thought about that and it got his attention. First he said no, then realized it was true. When he was running 60 miles a week I was running 80, when he ran 70 which was the most he ever did, then I was running 100. What he did worked for him and I had to run more to keep up with him.
The rest of the advice here is good too. You run for yourself and the talent that you have, not based on the talents of somebody else. You have no control over that.
oh. my. god.
an honest response that actually makes sense. PoD.
He is either more genetically gifted than you... or you are training wrongly, or you are racing in the wrong event.
Disregarding the gifted or not, go longer, or go {much} shorter and you may find you have the beating of this guy. He may always beat you in xc however.
Answer me this: if you ran 120 mi/wk for a year, and Bernard Lagat ran 60 mi/wk, do you think that you should be able to take him? At any distance?
It's called talent. Some people got it. Some people don't. I don't, but that doesn't mean that I can't get the best possible out of myself and beat a lot of people in the process.
training partners wrote:
He sat in my car in the rain after the race talking about how frustrating it was that some overweight "jogger" had beat him and it turned out was running less mileage, then he burst into tears. It was rather emotional seeing my friend so upset.
I let him cry a bit (trying not to myself).
Every competitor gets beaten sometime, but what makes them a competitor is the drive to come back stronger. Your friend should have sat in the car and thought about how to improve so he doesnt get beaten in the same manner agian instead of b*tch*
Yep. POD. A very simple, but meaningful response.