Track rules questions

Question #1 - In the horizontal jumps, if you have a tie you go to the next-best jump to determine the winner(or place).

Question #2 - With today's timing systems, it's virtually impossible to have a tie since photos can read to the 1/1000 of a second. But IF you do, you would have a run-off for that final qualifying spot.

Question #2: If there is an extra lane available (like Osaka's nine lane track), both tied runners could go through.

answers.... wrote:

Question #1 - In the horizontal jumps, if you have a tie you go to the next-best jump to determine the winner(or place).

Question #2 - With today's timing systems, it's virtually impossible to have a tie since photos can read to the 1/1000 of a second. But IF you do, you would have a run-off for that final qualifying spot.

A run off? Please cite the rule that says there would be a run off.

I have a question. Can someone please explain the "new" false start rule to me? It's only been around for a little over five years, and I've only had it explained to me every time I've watched a track meet during that span, but I'm still not sure I understand it.

Seriously though, thank goodness they don't seem to be going through that whole explanation at Worlds. They do, however, continue to announce the start of every sprint race with, "And it's a clean start!" Isn't that true of every race that doesn't get called back?

GrumpyOldXCguy

[quote]OldXCguy wrote:

I have a question. Can someone please explain the "new" false start rule to me? It's only been around for a little over five years, and I've only had it explained to me every time I've watched a track meet during that span, but I'm still not sure I understand it.

If there is a first false start, no individual runner is charged. If there is a subsequent false start, the offending runner is out. Ditto if there is a 3rd false start, etc. If 2 runners simultaneously false start, ( after that initial one) I am not sure if they are both out or they both get a reprieve.

Uh oh, I should have put a winkie thingie on there, because that was supposed to be sarcasm. I thought the start of the second paragraph ("Seriously though...") would give it away.

If two runners simultaneously false start, they're both gone. Saw that in one of the heats of the women's 100.

Check your IAAF rule book and you will find it.

Aren't you also glad that they announce the first lane is empty every single 100 & 100 hurdles race.

i saw this and was pretty surprised...

as we have already discussed, its virtually impossible for 2 individuals to do something at the "exact same time" given the timing methods being used.

thus, it seems silly to DQ someone who false started less bad than another person in the same race.

in the instance in the womens 100, the women were on opposite ends of the track (lanes 2 and 9 i think) so they were clearly not influenced by one another, so i didnt have a problem with the double DQ, however, if you really wanted to, you could tell who jumped first..

and what if lane 5 jumps, and 4 or 6 jumps a split second later, although it appears they jump at the same time...either could have been influenced by lane 5..

also....iv seen runners have huge false starts, and many other runners will come out of the blocks in a kinda half-assed manner before the actual gun...whats the rule on this?

is there some set of rules that provides for all these situations? or is it supposed to be a judgment call by the officals?

Not at all. Generally, open lanes are announced.

luv2run wrote:

A run off? Please cite the rule that says there would be a run off.

Section 11, article 8 of the NCAA Track & Field Rulebook.

It's also a HS rule, but the rulebook is not linkable online.

Next question.

Mr. Arms (a cousin of Mr. Chest?), good questions. I thought the same thing when I saw both women DQ'd in the 100. Shouldn't it have been the one who jumped first? Any one have answers for this?