Do you guys think it matters if you run D1 or D2, D3? Isn't running so subjective that you are in charge of your destiny?
Do you guys think it matters if you run D1 or D2, D3? Isn't running so subjective that you are in charge of your destiny?
Aren't you a complete douchebag?
achillesthewingedwarrior wrote:
Do you guys think it matters if you run D1 or D2, D3? Isn't running so subjective that you are in charge of your destiny?
The best should race against the best. Go D1, everything else is uncivilized!
to a certain degree. however, seems like the only people who say what you are saying are the one's who ran d2 or d3 and feel the need to feel better about themselves or justify whatever their choice to run at whatever small school it is they run/ran at. just like the subset of people who go around saying, "it doesn't matter what college you go to, it's what you learn..." . sure, if that makes you feel better about going to bufu state instead of harvard or yale or whatever.
Hey DI is DI but don't knock the rest DII, DIII, NAIA, and JUCO. Being on a team that helps you get better and getting through school with a degree that really helps you get a job you want is the most important thing. Go ahead and bash this. I still love my job and you don't.
apparently it didn't matter to some, like Edwin Moses and a few more recent guys. But in most cases it does matter, the D1 guys are usually faster. And are always faster.
But in the big picture, there's some 12 YEAR OLDs in KENYA that all ran under a 4:30 MILE when they were PLAYING TAG at recess!!
Because white people suck.
And I'm gay.
Yeah, it certainly does matter in terms of team importance. It's a lot more important to win Pac-10's than the crappy conference my crappy team won in DIII. If you don't care about the team, then I suppose it doesn't really matter where you run, though you would most likely get better coaching at the DI level.
The top guys are comparable in each...there is more depth in better runners in D1 though. As long as your team has good enough guys to train with and make you alot better and you go to good meets it really doesnt matter what you go to. D1 is only better because more high school kids think so and go there, but if you actually do your research you can find alot of D2 schools and some D3 that will train you better than D1, and your likelihood of burning out may decrease.
Yes. It completely matters. It is much more prestigeous to run for a D-I school like the University of California or the University of Washington and get your ass kicked by the likes of D-II Chico State than the other way around. I mean, if you lose to the D-II guys, you can always pump yourself up by saying that you ran D-I. All D-I runners are superior. Academically, athletically, and therefore bigger egos.
so I run d3 and my friend(younger) who is not a better runner than me is going to D1 yet still he makes fun of me for running d3. Where does that put me in the realm of things? more importantly do i have a right to make fun of him.
WONDER wrote:
I still love my job and you don't.
I love my job and I went to a DI school. Maybe I'm the only one who it worked out for.
WONDER wrote:
Hey DI is DI but don't knock the rest DII, DIII, NAIA, and JUCO. Being on a team that helps you get better and getting through school with a degree that really helps you get a job you want is the most important thing. Go ahead and bash this. I still love my job and you don't.
yeah, cause you know stanford and those other d1 schools are so awful. they admit a bunch of retarded runners who don't even graduate!
JUCO is so much better! you're the shit!
This is a huge misconception. There are a ton of shitty coaches in d1, and a lot of excellent coaches in d3.
d3 dude wrote:
This is a huge misconception. There are a ton of shitty coaches in d1, and a lot of excellent coaches in d3.
i'm sure this is very true. but in my experience coaching is no substitute for a consistently high level of competition and some brains of your own. DIII is awesome for some people, but it certainly makes it harder to run really high-caliber times when the best guys at a lot of meets are 4:20-4:25, 14:50-15:15 types.
it doesn't "really matter" what division you run in. but if you want to get very fast, you need very good competition. there is more of that in the better divisions. that's all.
Does it really matter in track? If you're fast enough you can get into the fast meets. CC is a different story.
if you want to know if it matters, look at performance lists for the different divisions. DIII all-time lists look like some conference meet results in D1.
again, not bashing d3. running is just running anyway--get an education.
Then again, a DIII coach outside of Boston told me he gets his XC team into meets with BU and BC.
The better DIII teams are usually in meets with DI teams, so they get their competition. If you're really a cream of the crop high school runner, the competition you'll get at DIII doesn't make sense, but for the majority I would think DII, DIII, or NAIA could make a lot of sense if the school is the right fit and there's a solid program.
why does some kid start this thread at least once a week? And why do tough talking macho high school kids who probably won't even run in college always say that it is "d1 or nothing" for them. Fools, all fools.
Most DIII teams go to DI meets to run their best times.
truthiness wrote:
d3 dude wrote:This is a huge misconception. There are a ton of shitty coaches in d1, and a lot of excellent coaches in d3.
i'm sure this is very true. but in my experience coaching is no substitute for a consistently high level of competition and some brains of your own. DIII is awesome for some people, but it certainly makes it harder to run really high-caliber times when the best guys at a lot of meets are 4:20-4:25, 14:50-15:15 types.
it doesn't "really matter" what division you run in. but if you want to get very fast, you need very good competition. there is more of that in the better divisions. that's all.