Abdirahman quietly goes to work

I love that guy. "The Mayor of Tucson" indeed!

amazing nenow is on that list 6 times and nobody ever gives him a nod as a top American.

had to ask wrote:

amazing nenow is on that list 6 times and nobody ever gives him a nod as a top American.

WTF?

Wow what this list illustrates is just how bad the 90s were for U.S, distance running. BK, TW and...

Hardly any worse than the late 70's, from Prefontaine's run in 74 to 81 there was a drought. Aside from Nenow, the late 80s weren't much to speak of, either.

and culpepper. but your point stands - that guy just always seems to get forgotten.

Anyone notice that of Abdi's three best times, his highest finish was 7th place?

Abdi has been making very consistent gains over the years. At his rate of improvement of 1 second per year, he will surely dip into the 27:20's in 2 short years.

Why exactly were the 90s so slow?

That's OK no one expects him to be number one. Just adding to the numbers is enough for me. If he is consistently our 3rd to 5th best distance runner, maybe we aren't as bad as we think we are.

miniscule facts wrote:

Abdi has been making very consistent gains over the years. At his rate of improvement of 1 second per year, he will surely dip into the 27:20's in 2 short years.

he ran 27:22 last year idiot

miniscule facts wrote:

Abdi has been making very consistent gains over the years. At his rate of improvement of 1 second per year, he will surely dip into the 27:20's in 2 short years.

Check out number 3 on that list. He's already been there.

Psychology

memories wrote:

Hardly any worse than the late 70's, from Prefontaine's run in 74 to 81 there was a drought. .

What "drought?" Ranked in the top ten in the world by track and field news was

74 shorter (5), pre (10)

75 shorter (2)

79 virgin (2)

80 virgin (2)

81 salazar (6), mcchesney (9)

By time (fastest in world)

1974: Prefontaine 27:43.6 (Pre)

1975: Shorter 27:45.91 (Foster 27:45.43)

1976: Bjorklund 27:49.77, Shorter 27:55.45, Virgin 27:59.43 (Viren 27:40.38)

1977: (Shorter 28:19.76) (Kimobwa 27:30.47)

1978: Doug Brown 27:54.19, Virgin 27:57.2 (Rono 27:22.47)

1979: Virgin 27:39.4 (Karl Fleschen 27:36.8)

1980: Virgin 27:29.16, McChesney 27:58.50 (Virgin)

1981: Salazar 27:40.69, McChesney 27:47.25 (Mamede 27:27.7)

27:29.16 Craig Virgin 80

27:39.40 Virgin 79

27:40.69 Salazar 81

27:43.60 Steve Prefontaine 74

27:45.91 Frank Shorter 75

27:47.25 Bill McChesney 81

27:49.30 Salazar 80

27:49.77 Bjorklund 76

27:51.74 Shorter 75

27:54.19 Doug Brown 78

27:55.45 Shorter 76

27:56.72 Salazar 81

27:57.20 Virgin 78

27:58.50 McChesney 80

27:59.00 Virgin 79

27:59.43 Virgin 76

27:59.55 Virgin 79

It was a drought in terms of getting close to or breaking Prefontaine's AR. While not as long as Nenow's mark stood, 7 years is still a long time for the AR to stand, especially in the context of all of the legendary runners that you've cited.

He was going quietly about his work until Malmo blabbed it all over Letsrun

Nitwit alert wrote:

had to ask wrote:

amazing nenow is on that list 6 times and nobody ever gives him a nod as a top American.

WTF?

not sure WTF you mean by WTF.

not many discussions on here ever consider him, just Pre, Shorter, Ryun, 1 or 2 others.

memories wrote:

It was a drought in terms of getting close to or breaking Prefontaine's AR. While not as long as Nenow's mark stood, 7 years is still a long time for the AR to stand, especially in the context of all of the legendary runners that you've cited.

Shorter came within 2 seconds of Pre's mark the very next year(1975). Virgin broke Pre's AR only 5 years later(1979).

American sub 28:00 10k by year.

1972: 1: Shorter 27:51.32 (Viren 27:38.35)

1973: 0: (Casteneda 28:30.6) (Bedford 27:30.80)

1974: 1: Prefontaine 27:43.6 (Pre)

1975: 1: Shorter 27:45.91 (Foster 27:45.43)

1976: 3: Bjorklund 27:49.77, Shorter 27:55.45, Virgin 27:59.43 (Viren 27:40.38)

1977: 0: (Shorter 28:19.76) (Kimobwa 27:30.47)

1978: 2: Doug Brown 27:54.19, Virgin 27:57.2 (Rono 27:22.47)

1979: 1: Virgin 27:39.4 (Karl Fleschen 27:36.8)

1980: 2: Virgin 27:29.16, McChesney 27:58.50 (Virgin)

1981: 2: Salazar 27:40.69, McChesney 27:47.25 (Mamede 27:27.7)

1982: 4: Salazar 27:25.61, Nenow 27:36.7, McChesney 27:50.82, Thomas Hunt 27:59.1 (Mamede 27:22.95)

1983: 3: Nenow 27:52.41, Meyer 27:53.1, Jim Hill 27:55.23 (Lopes 27:23.44)

1984: 8: Nenow 27:40.56, Cummings 27:43.7, Salazar 27:45.5, Bjorklund 27:46.9, Sandoval 27:47.0, Bickford 27:47.91, Porter 27:49.5, Eyestone 27:56.06 (Mamede 27:13.81)

1985: 4: Bickford 27:37.17, Nenow 27:40.85, Eyestone 27:41.05, Plasencia 27:58.56 (Bickford, US top 3 world)

1986: 5: Nenow 27:20.56, Plasencia 27:51.70, Eyestone 27:56.4, Porter 27:57.3, G. Donakowski 27:58.41 (Nenow)

1987: 1: Nenow 27:48.94 (Panetta 27:26.95)

1988: 1: Porter 27:46.80 (Brahim Boutayeb 27:21.46)

1989: 2: Nenow 27:42.64, Plasencia 27:53.88 (Barrios 27:08.23)

1990: 2: Plasencia 27:45.20, Porter 27:56.20 (Barrios 27:18.22)

1991: 2: Butler 27:59.35, Ramirez 27:59.70 (Chelimo 27:11.18)

1992: 1: Eyestone 27:53.58 (Bayissa 27:14.26)

1993: 1: Williams 27:40.37 (Ondieki 26:58.38)

1994: 0: (John Scherer 28:20.33) (Sigei 26:52.23)

1995: 2: Williams 27:31.34, Chris Fox 27:53.0 (Geb 26:43.53)

1996: 0: (Middleman 28:04.8) (Salah Hissou 26:38.08)

1997: 1: Williams 27:58.13 (Tergat 26:27.85)

1998: 0: (Menon 28:15.02) (Geb 26:22.75)

1999: 2: Kennedy 27:38.37, Culpepper 27:39.27 (Kamathi 26:51.49)

2000: 3: Abdirahman 27:46.17, Kefezighi 27:53.63, Nick Rogers 27:55.17 (Tergat 27:03.87)

2001: 2: Meb 27:13.98, Culpepper 27:33.93 (Chebii 27:04.20)

2002: 6: Meb 27:20.15, Abdi 27:42.83, Browne 27:47.04, Culpepper 27:48.09, Clint Wells 27:56.90, Brad Hauser 27:58.02 (Sammy Kipketer 26:46.38)

2003: 3: Culpepper 27:41.90, Abdi 27:52.24, Meb 27:57.59 (Geb 26:29.22)

2004: 5: Meb 27:24.10, Abdi 27:34.24, Kennedy 27:37.45, Ritzenhein 27:38.50, Browne 27:42.19 (Bekele 26:20.31)

2005: 2: Abdi 27:33.47, Ian Dobson 27:59.72 (Bekele 26:17.53)

2006: 4: Abdi 27:22.81, Alan Webb 27:34.72, Dathan Ritzenhein 27:35.65, Anthony Famiglietti 27:37.74

2007: 7: Abdi 27:31.46, Galen Rupp 27:33.48, Jorge Torres 27:42.91, Ed Moran 27:43.13, James Carney 27:43.64, Alan Culpepper 27:50.05, Josh Rohatinsky 27:55.86