USATF Club Marathon Relay Results

Heard it was a great race for 2-3 over the last 12k. I looked at some of the spits and have to wonder about the length of them. Like Matt Dowin running 33:35 for 10k? Were the legs accurate? Nice job to the winning teams and the other top clubs.

Brooks-Hansons absolutely dominated, all claiming the fastest legs... looks like Henry Dennis completely exploded on his opening leg and ran over 32-minutes.

Open Men

Place Team Split Cumulative Bib# Time

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1 HANSONS-BROOKS DISTANCE PROJECT (Michigan) 1007 2:15:36

Josh Moen 30:42 30:42 (1)

Luke Humphrey 15:23 46:05 (1)

Ryan Sheehan 33:46 1:19:51 (1)

Pat Rizzo 16:00 1:35:51 (1)

Martin Rosendahl 39:47 2:15:36 (1)

Take that back, the number in parenthesis is the place they were at the time... Downins held their own and had fastest legs.

What would the results have been if this were at sea level on a flatter course?

Brooks-Hansons might have been closer to 2:12...

Clubbing wrote:

I looked at some of the spits and have to wonder about the length of them. Like Matt Dowin running 33:35 for 10k? Were the legs accurate?

Rumor has it that the 3rd leg was about 2 minutes long (which resulted in the overall distance of the race being long). So the overall time for each of the teams should be reduced by 2 minutes to get a better sense of their true times.

Seguru wrote:

Brooks-Hansons might have been closer to 2:12...

More like 2:09 or 2:10 if the course was in deed 2 minutes long.

Wasn't this part of a marathon? Was it long too?

Would've been an interesting race last year between BX and Hanson's.

down to the wire

BX would have been in the hunt for second.

Heard a lot of people saying the relay/marathon were long this year.

Another shitty event organizer that bought a national champs race with prize money.

idoubtit wrote:

BX would have been in the hunt for second.

BX's time last year was faster than Hanson's this year, even if you tack on the 2 minutes for a supposedly longer course. So it seems Hanson's, in fact, would likely have settled for 2nd.

Incredibly specious argument. How hard-pressed were Hansons for the lead? They ran to win, and they would have last year, and didn't need to run any harder than they did to hold a lead.

Ron Dogsicko wrote:

Incredibly specious argument. How hard-pressed were Hansons for the lead? They ran to win, and they would have last year, and didn't need to run any harder than they did to hold a lead.

I didn't make an argument. I simply compared times. But I give you another fact: BX won by a sizeable margin last year as well, and were under no threat of losing the race - one would have to believe it would've have been a very close race. I give the edge to BX

justthefacts wrote:

I didn't make an argument.

You sure did state one and imply that superior time on two different days against two different fields necessarily holds that one winner would beat another. How about this? Hansons didn't show last year, BX (as it was) didn't show this year, so you can't know who would have won. Anything else is pure (and probably biased) speculation. Was it warmer and/or windier today than it was a year ago? If I had to guess, the slightly better team from Hansons operated at a disadvantage by racing at altitude, whereas the BX crew did not. Too bad BX/Boulder Distance Project didn't have the cache to hold onto all the team members from last year.

Downin ran every single mile under 5 minutes with the exception of his 7:45 second mile. The course was at least 2:45-2:50 long. Hansons looked pretty good. I believe that WRRT and Boulder Running Company would have beat last years winner.

So maybe a USATF national club championship road relay should be an event that is not just stuck onto a "real" marathon and USATF could pay more attention to quality?

What impresses me most is that the Hanson's did not run any of the runners that competed in the 25k. The took 1,4,7,9,12 in the U.S. Championships. That depth is amazing.