Top VO2Max in history?

armstrong?

The most important factor is running economy, the differences in Vo2max between highly trained people are not that high in average but the differences in running economy can be astonishing.Especially if you compare an average east african Marathoner and a serious training american/european guy.Take Lance A for example, superhigh Vo2max and well prepared aerobic machine but simply not build for elite running->2:59 Marathon.

When you are build like Tergat or Shaheen, a 60ml/kg/min Vo2max would probably enough to finish top3 at US Champs if you are training seriously, 80+ml/kg/min+this body structure+serious training->World Records.

Yes this might be true..........

but if a runner improves his VO2max or his speed at Vo2max he will definitely run faster...so there is still some value to it.

The most important factor is the ability to train consistently at various paces with sufficient mileage.

The Queen has spoken.

the fact that extant physiological measurements correlate poorly with performance does not mean that physiology correlates poorly with performance. it may just mean that they haven't measured the right things or combined them in the right way, and when some real scientist gets into the field at some point maybe you'll get those measurements.

malmo wrote:

Some coach, I've never ever met Jack Daniels, and everything I've read from him here has been a positive experience. If you think that I'm "crushing your life's work" that's your problem. I'm not. Just be thankful you're not a lawyer or a politician. (What do you call ten lawyers at the bottom of the sea?) I've had EP geeks tell me years ago (when I originally posted that satire) it put big a big smile on their faces. If you are a bitter person to start with, you'll probably find bitterness in anything you read. Hopefully, a little humor will cure that.

Come on Malmo, you are the king of sarcasm here on letsrun, you couldn't detect that in my "crush" statement? Let's make a deal ... I'll try harder to recognize that you're not bitter, and you try harder to pick up my subtle sarcasm. And by the way, I'm a congressman with a law degree; my undergrad degree was in exercise phys. ;)

VO2Max seems to be a poor indicator of performance (among top athletes). However, I wouldn't through out the test results just yet. Knowing an athlete's VO2Max gives good insight into how he/she should be trained.

Sorry again, Some Coach, don't fit me for the Crown Jewels just yet. Merely being facetious and expressing ironic observations, wry humor and humorous quips isn't the same as sarcasm. Sarcasm implies an intent to do harm, which is not my cup of tea. Just because you see a lot of hostility, unbridled anger and downright anti-social behavior on these message boards (and others: have you ever read some of the commentary below youtube videos?), please don't lump me in with them. I used to tell friends that I don't remember runners in our day being angry about everything, or even anything for that matter, until it dawned on me that maybe they were always there, and they just didn't have a venue like to internet to act out their impulses.

I was just getting out the door for a very, very cold run, but your lawyer/politician/EP geek joke is making me take a certified giggle delay, for fear I'd break out in a fit of laughter a couple miles down the road!

Did 68 minutes in 19 degree, -2 windchill bitch poor conditions. I barely survived, hope you live to type another day.

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