This is my first pair of Brooks and I have to say they feel great so far (just a few miles on them). How long should I expect these shoes to last through training runs? 200, maybe 300 miles (i weigh 165-170)? Anybody have an opinion/experience with the T4's as trainers? Thanks.
trying something new wrote:
This is my first pair of Brooks and I have to say they feel great so far (just a few miles on them). How long should I expect these shoes to last through training runs? 200, maybe 300 miles (i weigh 165-170)? Anybody have an opinion/experience with the T4's as trainers? Thanks.
170 lbs? I'd say 300 max. Probably more like 200. I'd save those bad boys only for race days.
The T4s are great shoes period. I used them for my first half marathon, and they did not give me any problems. However, I would save those bad boys for races only too.
do they have a t4 trainer? I use the t4 racing flats. The flats should not be used as trainers. that is asking for injury.
Great shoes all arond- I generally use them for faster workouts and races. I got about 350 miles out of my first pair, but they were pretty beat, and I'm only about 140-145, so I'd say keep it under 250. They're great for tempo runs and long track workouts, great on trails (as long as they aren't muddy), great on the roads... superb shoes.
weeeee wrote:
do they have a t4 trainer? I use the t4 racing flats. The flats should not be used as trainers. that is asking for injury.
I do all of my runs in either T3s or T4s (though I think T3 is the superior model) and I never get injuries. Maybe I am blessed with uninjurable legs, and perhaps I have just jinxed myself and will get injured tomorrow, but I say that training in light-weight, low-cushion shoes has improved my leg turnover and kept me injury-free. If you feel good in T4s, then run in T4s, brother! But if you can get your hands on some T3s, you are in for a real treat.
A fantastic shoe, the only thing I wear (except for sloppy trail runs). Good for about 250 miles, more if I patch the toe with Shoe Goo (I'm a forefoot striker). I was struggling with PF before switching to these and they have greatly alleviated the problem, practically eliminated it in fact. Will wear them for Boston.
weeeee wrote:
do they have a t4 trainer? I use the t4 racing flats. The flats should not be used as trainers. that is asking for injury.
Not if you're fine without cushioning. 1000 miles and counting on my T3s.
Thanks for the responses, everyone. Is the T3 similar to the T4 - same line, different model??? I know I won't get much life out of them, but I'm trying to step out of traditional "trainers" and use something with a lower profile and that allows for a more natural feel. To me the cushioning doesn't seem so bad, certainly more than training in flats, no?
Absolutely great racer. I have raced and trained in it for some time now, but stock up, the shoe is disappearing and is pretty much finished with production as the T5 gets released in April. For example, I think Brooks is out of 8-9.5 and 11.5-13 on the shoe. Gotta try online or your local running store.
Great shoes - I do most of my training in them. Got about 400 on my last pair, and really only replaced them because they stunk like holy hell. Only thing I don't like about them is that the traction in rainy or wet conditions kind of sucks.
The P/F comment got my attention. How long did you have it and how severe were the symptoms?
I've had it in one foot or the other for 14 months now. It seems as stubborn as a poltergeist in a horror movie.
I had it in varying degrees for about 4 months, it got worst after Chicago (which I ran in ST2s). Went back to heavy cushioned shoes for a while (Epiphany), that helped a little (plus lots of self-massage with roller from Trigger Point), on a whim broke out the T4s and they felt great, helped a lot. Have stuck with them, even in the snow and ice. They feel more cushioned than the STs, maybe because sole material is softer, and they are made on a curved last unlike most shoes.
What do you people do to your shoes that they only last 200-300 miles? Geez, I'd go broke buying shoes if I went through them that fast. I run in them until my toes are almost touching the ground.