mile spikes

i would suggest kennedy xc's or nike rival d's.

the nike miler is good for distances 100-800 meters.

anything over 800 is in the nike milers is just asking for injury, and you dont have any energy return in the plate of the shoe.

except its called the miler...

haha i use 'em for anything middle distance, up to a 3k/two mile. wouldn't have it any other way. designing them on the nike id site is awesome as well.

Ken XC's for the mile? Use milers!

You never cease to amaze me in how stupid your posts are.

yea, the Milers caused horrible Injuries for El G, I mean he ONLY won the Olympics in them.

the430miler wrote:

i would suggest kennedy xc's or nike rival d's.

the nike miler is good for distances 100-800 meters.

anything over 800 is in the nike milers is just asking for injury, and you dont have any energy return in the plate of the shoe.

Are you serious? maybe that is the reason you are only a 4:30miler, running track in XC shoes and all. Yeah use the miler that's what they are made for.

the430miler wrote:

i would suggest kennedy xc's or nike rival d's.

the nike miler is good for distances 100-800 meters.

anything over 800 is in the nike milers is just asking for injury, and you dont have any energy return in the plate of the shoe.

Webb ran a 10k in the milers.

nike:

jasari

kennedy (originl)

miler

lanang

reebok:

bislett distance

puma:

harambee

all good for 800m-10,000m

gotta run in the nang-nangs baby!!!

Unrated wrote:

yea, the Milers caused horrible Injuries for El G, I mean he ONLY won the Olympics in them.

unrated:

dont get me wrong, the spikes that a person uses, in the end, comes down to a personal preference. but i can tell you the basis for choosing spikes, seeing as how i have already been down the podiatric pathways in the past. bare with me in my story....

i was a freshmen in highschool. wore kennedy xc's for xc that year. come track season, i bought a par of zoom milers, because i saw in eastbay magazine that they were 4.x ounces~!

so i got the zoom milers, and my season went great. i was able to maintain 70 pace for the mile that year and run 4:40. i also wore them in the 3200 and ran 10:30.

the main reason that my freshman season went well in these shoes is because i was a BEGINNING runner. low mileage. perfect joints. lots of fat and everything else still in my legs from being a beginning/non runner. i wasnt very skinny either. my feet werent very bony at the time and could maintain the pounding of these type of spikes.

then came my horrid sophmore season. i worn kennedys for xc again, no problems. then came track again and i wore zoom milers, this time with injury and slowness because of lack of cushioning and energy return in the shoe. the shoe is like running on a hard plastic plate, no energy return at all, just your feet slapping the track every step, and thats what caused my stress fracture.

luckily, i was abale to heal in a few weeks and wear my kennedy xc's for the mile, AND THEY FELT GREAT. I HAD PERFECT ENERGY RETURN, AND RAN PR IN THE MILE. and to this very day, the most exciting day of my life had been when i broke 430 in the mile. i got more adrenaline and endorphines moving that day than you could ever imagine, and i was convinced that im not ever racing in anything but kennedys ever again, because they have a perfect plate and energy return.

the only reason people el g' can wear nike milers is because they only race a few times per year.

in conclusion, i would like restate my original statement, that it comes down to a personal preference in the end. all im trying to do is save you from injury, and save you from running a slow time due to lack of energy return. once your spikes cushioning is done, you are done as well. but if the energy return holds up, then so wil your legs and you will have enough energy in your legs to maintain pace and kick like hell through the finish line.

For the last time, cushioning DOES NOT equal energy return!!! What don't you get about that???? The softer your shoes are, the less energy is returned to you.

Interesting story about your high school career. So just because you had a stress fracture your soph. year and happened to be using miler spikes at the time means that milers are too hard? Would it not make more sense to say that you probably didn't ease into your mileage properly and got broken down? It's pretty ignorant to say that a pair of shoes that you were able to wear as a young runner without injury then caused you injury a year later, when your body was more developed and capable of handling the stresses of running. Nonsense with the "fat" cushioning your feet. That might be the most ridiculous claim I've heard all week. So wear your cross shoes to run on the track if you want to, but your posts are maddening -- I've never seen such an ability to ignore logic and not make a bit of sense.

Why is there a half naked boy behind the 4:30Miler in the picture in the profile link?

Unrated wrote:

yea, the Milers caused horrible Injuries for El G, I mean he ONLY won the Olympics in them.

actually, if memory serves me correct, he only had the upper from the miler on a spike plate which i think was the zoom shift.

sarcasm only works when you know what you are talking about.

it wasn't the zoom shift, it was the shift heel custom fitted to the miler plate.

anyways, please take off that "physiology extrordinare" from your profile, ive never bashed anyone on letsrun before, but your logic is ridiculous. are you a senior? junior in high school? have you ever had a talk with an exercise physiologist or even a biomechanist? taken any college coarses in the matter? you describe yourself as very inefficient and lack physical maturity. maybe you shouldnt blaim the shoes but blaim your coach. don't give advice to people on letsrun. i encourage your story and hope you do very well in running, i wish you the best, but leave yourself to a listener/follower rather than a speaker/leader.

to answer the original question, the shoes i recommend most for the mile are the milers and lanangs (if you run more on your toes or balls of your feet, very good for kickers), zoom kennedys, adidas LD, and reebok foster deluxe distance (good for runners that prefer a good heel to toe striking ratio), or the jasaris and eldo 2 (good for athletes that have a kick and run on the balls of their feet, but still have a heel to settle during the middle of a race, had a lot of success with the eldo 2 in the 1500).

Am I beating a dead horse by calling the430miler dumb?

430, are you fing kidding me. El G only races a few time a year? El G most likely races many many more times in one year than your avergage HS runner. especially if he ever did indoor. And if you personally like the Kennedy XCs, then that is fine, but just say that, dont go out and say something stupid, like the Milers arent good for the Mile. The fact of the matter is, they are made for the mile, they work for the mile, and even farther. If you don't like them, then whatever. They arent my favorite either, but I'm not retarded enough to think that they arent good mile spikes. Are you going to tell me next that the Nike High Jump spikes are not cut out for the high jump? Or maybe its just Tergat didnt run in the milers.

Didn't we ALREADY have this debate, and weren't you ALREADY prooved, not only wrong, but stupid as all get out?

...Why I do believe so!

Unrated wrote:

430, are you fing kidding me. El G only races a few time a year? El G most likely races many many more times in one year than your avergage HS runner. especially if he ever did indoor. And if you personally like the Kennedy XCs, then that is fine, but just say that, dont go out and say something stupid, like the Milers arent good for the Mile. The fact of the matter is, they are made for the mile, they work for the mile, and even farther. If you don't like them, then whatever. They arent my favorite either, but I'm not retarded enough to think that they arent good mile spikes. Are you going to tell me next that the Nike High Jump spikes are not cut out for the high jump? Or maybe its just Tergat didnt run in the milers.

What are you talking about? High Jump spikes work best for low and mid jumps, everyone knows this!

Just don't respond to him.