I bet that I could still break 2 minutes for the 800m

Dream Re-Liver wrote:

Need help.

Yes, you do.

Never bet against a GO'L. I once saw old man GO'L take down a Milrose mile champion.

Speaking of former Big East runners, has anyone heard Dan Wilson's latest record? I didn't know he as a musician.

http://trampolinerecords.com/wilson.html

Hopefully Wilson hits the track again. I always rake in the cash betting him to finish last.

I wuld do a 400 workout ASAP, just like 4-6x400 hard

just makle sure u have enough time to recover so maybe tomorrow run 4-6x400 run easy the day after than friday run like 8-10x200 decently fast and than saturday if possible do a threshold run, take it eays the next couple days with a few easy strides. After so much time off it will be hard for u to maintani a hard pace.

HSrunner wrote:

I wuld do a 400 workout ASAP, just like 4-6x400 hard

just makle sure u have enough time to recover so maybe tomorrow run 4-6x400 run easy the day after than friday run like 8-10x200 decently fast and than saturday if possible do a threshold run, take it eays the next couple days with a few easy strides. After so much time off it will be hard for u to maintani a hard pace.

Thank you for the advice, my only fear about doing this much work is that my legs will be dead come Tuesday. I know I need to remind my body what it feels like to hurt and I need to have at least a little confidence that I can run through it, but if my legs are heavy from doing repeat 400s, I could be screwed.

I remember a former teammate in a similar situation and he did repeat downhill strides because he wanted to run as fast as possible as soon as possible. That seemed ridiculous though and it probably destroyed his body.

You are right, don't do any more than 4 or 5 200's every other day with your normal run. Maybe do 2x200 and 2x300 one time but take plenty of rest.

Thrifty Guy wrote:

You are right, don't do any more than 4 or 5 200's every other day with your normal run. Maybe do 2x200 and 2x300 one time but take plenty of rest.

That sounds like a better idea. I should have noted in the original post that I really haven't gained any weight (5-10 lbs. max) and overall I'm pretty healthy. I do a little lifting, walk a few miles a day to get to and from work etc., and I think the 25-30 mpw are going to be huge.

If I were you I'd work on stretching and flexibility stat. It's not about how fast you can't run, but rather if you're able to bend over and kiss your own ass after you fail to reach your goal. This not making sense to you?

No big deal.

Dream Re-Liver wrote:

I'm 3 years out of college,ran mid-distance (1/2 in 1:52ish and mile in 4:06ish). I now work at a desk, recently started running again (about 2 months ago) doing a casual 20-30 miles per week and I just took a bet that I could break 2 flat for the 800m next tuesday.

What do I need to do to make this happen?

I'm thinking of doing some strides tonight and go on my now usual 5 mile run. Tomorrow do 2-3 200s in 30 just to move my legs and then just run regularly and do some strides a few times before the big day.

A peruvian chicken dinner is on the line. Need help.

That's nice. Let us know how it went. All the best.

Peruvians don't even know how to cook chicken. Seriously dude, why waste your time? It's gonna taste like garbage. I know from experience.

You rich white kids who've never even been to South America love to be so cool and eat your peruvian chicken and your burritos.

you probably grew up in a rich white only area.

STOP FAKING IT.

I bet you can't do it.

You've got six days to recover. The main thing is to callous yourself a little for the pain. Run an 800 time trial tomorrow, first 400 solid, second 400 hard. Good cool down and ice bath after. Some 200's easy-med. (say 32 down to 28) on Fri., 4x200 under 30 on Sun.,, then easy and you should be good to go.

You need the mental edge of knowing you can handle the pace. Sit on him the first 500.

I also dont think you can ship that.

Just sayin

400-1500 coach wrote:

You need the mental edge of knowing you can handle the pace. Sit on him the first 500.

monkey tits, there is nobody to sit on.

I saw the post on the "other teammate" and mistakenly read in that this was a direct race (just ran 12 miles and a little foggy). All the more reason to dial in the 60-second/400 pace and effort to nail it.

you know what, I was wrong to call you monkey tits. you made a good informative post.

I am sorry.

accepted?

400-1500 coach wrote:

You've got six days to recover. The main thing is to callous yourself a little for the pain. Run an 800 time trial tomorrow, first 400 solid, second 400 hard. Good cool down and ice bath after. Some 200's easy-med. (say 32 down to 28) on Fri., 4x200 under 30 on Sun.,, then easy and you should be good to go.

You need the mental edge of knowing you can handle the pace. Sit on him the first 500.

i dont think you shoudl run the 800 time trial. its gonna hurt like hell and you aren't gonna wanna feel like that again.

i wouldn't run anything at race pace over 300m, 400m max.

you're gonna need the adrenaline to carry you through the 800. you're not gonna have that adrenaline doing these workouts so you might get demoralized when a 400 in 59 feels like a bitch.

you aren't gonna get in better shape by then. just run a couple (seriously, like 2) 200's a couple times before the big day.

i did something similar to this before, but with a shorter layoff. i think the key is to be confident and to do a couple 200's slightly faster than race pace.

you want to avoid the pain until its go time. that may sound wussy, but believe me its not worth the damage to the psyche.