After reading the dairy thread, I remembered that a college teammate of mine used to do this. He said that it countered lactic acid in the bloodstream. Is it for real?
He wasn't very good, maybe 15:10 on the track.
After reading the dairy thread, I remembered that a college teammate of mine used to do this. He said that it countered lactic acid in the bloodstream. Is it for real?
He wasn't very good, maybe 15:10 on the track.
it can, but it can also cause pretty bad diarrhea
From the studies I\'ve read, it only helps sprinters in very short races (200 meters or less), and the help at that is minimal.
We were talking about this 20 years ago; guys running 800 to 1000 found it helped, if it didn't wreck your stomach.
I looked into this. One study reported improvements of something like this:
400: 1-2 seconds
800: 2-3 seconds
1500: 4-6 seconds
Best dosage is .4g/kg of body weight dissolved in water taken 1-2 hours before race. However, it tastes like crap and will most likely give you the shits like never before. You may be too sick to even run the race, so it probably isn't worth it.
try it out for a couple runs as "practice". Well, I guess it would be best to try it out in a similar environment to racing, so try it out for a couple time trials. No sense in trying it for the first time in an actual race.
you're kidding right? you're talking about eating baking soda...wtf IS WRONG WITH YOU. EAT you pasta, meatballs, and tomatoes and run the fvcking race like the rest of us. jesus.
gumby wrote:
After reading the dairy thread, I remembered that a college teammate of mine used to do this. He said that it countered lactic acid in the bloodstream. Is it for real?
He wasn't very good, maybe 15:10 on the track.
Is this cheating?
Fundamentally?
last I checked, lactic acid is in your bloodstream, not your stomach
dur dur dur wrote:
last I checked, lactic acid is in your bloodstream, not your stomach
you're an idiot.
while your at it, don't drink any water, it''ll just go straight to you're bladder, and try not to breathe while you run, you're wasting energy, cuz the oxygen never leaves your lungs anyways.
There have been lots of tests on this. it works, but you have to get a LOT of baking soda into you to hit threcommended amounts and as stated, it will often mess up your stomach to the point of harming you more than helping you. I've tried it at half doses, it didn't mess up my stomach but both times i tried it i ran absolutely terrible.
It's called soda loading and it's not illegal because sodium bicarbonate (baking soda), is naturally found in the human body. The act of soda loading is however, frowned upon by all governing agencies. So you might not get your medals taking away, but you would probably be labeled a cheat. and it doesn't help with anything over a 1500m race. I remember reading about a different bicarbonate that was meant to help with longer distance races but i can't remember what it's called and honestly i don't think the results on the tests for it looked very good.
It's pretty doubtful lactic acid is even responsible for fatigue during heavy anaerobic exercise. So you are more likely to throw up than improve your track times.
Also I can only hope that the last poster is joking.
i was joking about the water and the breathing, yes, of course. but the rest is fact.
That's a big improvement if you can stomach it.
Medical study follows:
Clarification.
Not sodium bicarbonate, but probably the only thing close that has any effect on running when ingested.
Used the technique before my last marathon. Raised my LT and I was able to knock over 12 minutes off my previous best. Take it with 4 oz. of water.
i like to snort a few lines of it before my races
If you get empty gel-caps froma health food store it is alot easier to take. It does work.. I wouldnt use it over a mile. 800m it is a definate help.
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It's pretty doubtful lactic acid is even responsible for fatigue during heavy anaerobic exercise. So you are more likely to throw up than improve your track times.
Also I can only hope that the last poster is joking.
sodium bicarbonate is a buffer. It "delays" the drop in pH during exercise by neutralizing some of those hydrogen atoms. A drop in pH (in other words, increase in H ions) does limit performance. It does so in numerous ways (most notably inhibiting glycolysis).
It doesn't matter that lactate or lactic acid doesn't cause fatigue directly.
There was an article in the NYTimes about 20 years ago; basically, it helped, but you had 30 minutes from ingestion to get your race done before extreme gastrointestinal distress kicked in.