Why is the Asics Landreth highly recommended for underpronators?

Just bumping this up hoping a shoe guy on the board can answer. As someone who has had the Landreth recommended to them, I'm curious as well, because I tried the 2000 series and they didn't work well for me at all.

It may or may not match the shape of your foot, but first and foremost, not every high-arched person is neutral (or supinates) nor is aevery flat-footed person an overpronator.

Typically in situations where someone is truly a supinator, their more rigid structure (which is leading to the supination) doesn't allow for as much natural deflection of the foot (and therefore the impact of their stride) as is ideal, so the idea is to put them intot something softer, like a neutral shoe, to allow as much flexibility and to try and create as soft a landing/deflection as possible.

If I had a dollar for every bow-legged supinator who has complained about shin splints or the lateral sides of their feet being sore (due to the lack of natural pronation), well I'd have a few $$'s

This is why it's difficult to find shoes that truly work for underpronators/over-supinators. So many "neutral" shoes incorporate stability features for over-pronators. Another example is the softer "crash pads" or an angled lateral heal found on many supposedly neutral shoes. When a shoe is too soft laterally, or encourages lateral movement, I feel it in my hips, ITB and ankles.

The best shoe for me over the past few years has been the New Balance 833. Now the 825 has a lateral heel angle that causes excessive lateral roll.

I need a shoe with enough shock absorption (although not too soft) and flexibility to accomodate my rigid feet. There are few choices.

Quick question if you wouldn't mind.

I'm bowlegged, neutral arch and have a tendency to medial shin splints with one tibial stress fracture to boot. I also toe out.

A Physical Therapist who owns a running store gave me a foot/gait exam and told me I was neutral. He said some may call me a slight overpronator but I wasn't as the out toe'in can look like that (optical illusion in his terms). So I'm in a neutral shoe (Cumulus)

Dr. Noakes (lore of running) said the the majorit (70%) of shin splint patients will respond to correcting their overpronation with orthotics.

Any comments on this?

Normally a supinator (although not in every case) has a inflexible foot, high arched, and would require a shoe that does the flexing for his foot when he runs.

The Landreth is stable in the heel, as it is built on the old mould of the Asics 2090 over pronator series and has the flexible forefoot that you require.

I would suggest though a shoe that has a wide forefoot base, as this will be more stable for you. Have you tried the NB 755? Not that much of a lateral heel angle and the Acteva forefoot is durable, lightweight and responsive. A firmer choice that could fit the bill. Watch the forefoot fit, coming up a tad wide.

If you're only a slight overpronator, I doubt that is your problem. I guess the potential is there, but it sounds like it may be more the bowlegged legs than the slight pronation causing problems. Using orthotics may straighten out your feet a tad, but its also going to push your legs even farther out, which may cause more problems. I'm no doctor, but it seems to me that a good cushioned shoe would probably work the best, like the cumulus or the nimbus.

I don't know about this shoe being marketed to supinators, but it is a good neutral shoe. It is not a stability shoe though, and other than a slightly wider base, it is very neutral with unbelievable heel-toe transition. I have been in it for almost two years now, and have had no problems.

If you are looking for a good supination shoe, take a look at the Brooks Radius.

Symbolic wrote:

Since the Landreth is supposedly identical to the 2000 series minus the dual density, why is it recommended for underpronating or over-supinating runners? I\'ve read that the Trusstic System on the 2000 series is softer laterally. If this is the case on the Landreth, then it wouldn\'t be ideal for an underpronator or oversupinator. Also, I assume the shape of a shoe is made to fit a foot type. Obviously, a flatter footed runner for whom the 2000 series is designed wouldn\'t have the same shape as a high arched runner for whom the Landreth is marketed.

Can anybody explain why the Landreth is a top choice for its intended market? Or, is Asics trying to squeeze an extra buck out of an existing shoe? It seems to me that a shoe should be designed in its entirety for a specific biomechanical purpose.

Thanks!

I think you are overthinking things a bit...

I have run the the landreth. They are suited to an underpronator because they have no medial post (as you pointed out) and they are, put simply, a soft cushioned shoe. Underpronators typically need a cushioned shoe as the process of pronation (which they perform inadequately) disperses shock at impact.

Have run in 2005 wave riders, landreth and 2005 pegasus - personally i prefer the \'05 peg.

Asics Landreth is a perfect shoe for moderate over-pronaters who wear custom orthotics. Wearing a stability show with hard corrective orthotics is usually overkill.

yesstiles wrote:

Asics Landreth is a perfect shoe for moderate over-pronaters who wear custom orthotics. Wearing a stability show with hard corrective orthotics is usually overkill.

So an underpronator would probably be better off in a shoe other than the Landreth? What are some good alternatives for an underpronator? Brooks Radius, Adidas Supernova Cushion or Boston Classic, Others???

I supinate some with my right foot.I like the Radius05 but not the 06. I also use the Asics Flash DS / Speedstar, Mizuno Wave Rider 9 and Brooks T4 for racing.I just picked up a pair of Brooks Burn3 to try. These have a cush pod on the lateral side - the opposite of the Radius. The Speedstar is my workhorse shoe right now, great for long runs and races on gravel or rough roads.I use the Radius for recovery runs.

neutrality wrote:

yesstiles wrote:

Asics Landreth is a perfect shoe for moderate over-pronaters who wear custom orthotics. Wearing a stability show with hard corrective orthotics is usually overkill.

So an underpronator would probably be better off in a shoe other than the Landreth? What are some good alternatives for an underpronator? Brooks Radius, Adidas Supernova Cushion or Boston Classic, Others???