ALL OUT! What does it mean?(warning:potential for a good thread)

I imagine, for the most part, that your body will not let you go that hard. Even if there wasn't pain involved, I don't think a healthy person could run until death.

Also, pain isn't probably holding you back all that much. Certain things, physiologically, just aren't meant to be.

-Someone completely unqualified

well, going all out mentally is probly what most runners mean when they "go all out." True, the mind limits what the body can do, but it all saves the body from certain bad things, for example, death.

is death worth a minute of enjoying a 3:30 mile

just use a normal heading for threads or you look dumb

By your definition of "all out", I believe the only runner I know of that has truly flirted with the all out status is Alberto Salazar. With the story of him finishing Peachtree (I think) and his core body temperature reaching 108....literally on the brink of death. Also his "Duel in the Sun" with Dick Beardsly in the '82 Boston Marathon.

I'm sure there are your average everyday runners out there giving an "all out" effort at the local 5k's, but Alberto has to stick out in this discussion.

wow 108 is an intense temp

and to the other person...I think it is a good thread idea although I may have exagerated

Twice in HS I passed out at the end of races. The last thing I remember in both races was people passing me, and trying to run harder, but nothing responded. Then I remember waking up on a picnic table with EMTs surrounding me. At that point (the first time) I was unsure of what was going on. I thought they were going to take me to the hospital to do experiments (don't ask me why). I resisted their help, and passed out again.

The second time it happened (two years later) I knew what had happened. When I awoke, I discussed the situation with a doctor, and we presumed I was ok. I started cramping a few minutes later, and stood to stretch. At that point I realized something was wrong. I tried to yell for the doctor again, but there was a problem, I couldn't talk, nothing would come out. so I sat back down and a friend came over. I felt like Lassie trying to explain what was wrong. THis time when I passed out, I had a seizure, and started screaming. They said I kept yelling in a high voice, and trying to beat up my friend.

The second they got an oxygen mask on me, I was ok.

That, my friends, is running harder than "all out."

Tim Noakes has made a good case in TLOR that the body is physiologically incapable of killing itself through exercise. There is quite a bit of evidice for the existence of a "central governor", unhampered by conscious control, which basically makes sure that if there is no longer enough oxygen to supply your body's muscles, the heart gets first priority (i.e. peripheral recruitment is automatically decreased). "All out" may just be the maximum intensity you can maintain before this mechanism kicks in.

basically it means your going to be in the best effort you will put in compared to previous ones.

Zatopek, to make himself tougher, did things like hold his breath until he passed out. It is a rare individual who can overcome his body's natural impulses to that extent.

Also, I think one thing that helps runners as they mature is that they distinguish between *pain*--which is a signal of injury or even impending death!--and *effort*. In fact, I think learning to make that distinction is a key to approaching your true ability in this sport.

all out = Whip it Out Wednesday

If you didn't crap your pants, you didn't go all out.

I went ALL OUT this dis past weekend at a loco 5K. I busted my balls more dan I ever had. I had nudding to lose so I went out in 4:00.....Yeah, you heard me... FOUR POINT ZERO !! Dat takes MUCHO GONADOS !! I was able to hang on for anudder 4 and then anudder!! I PR'ed by a few minutes and I ended up running the Bestest 5K eber recorded!!

http://www.runnersimage.net/showresults.php?race_id=614

HECTOR has arrived !!!

Beijing 2008 !!!!

crazy streaker wrote:

is death worth a minute of enjoying a 3:30 mile

No. What would be the point? You ran super fast but then you died. Awesome. You don't get to injoy it. Your name is in some book but for what?

Twill dropping to the ground in Indy....one minute going back and forth with Kennedy, and the next minute out cold...he doesn't remember a thing!

Hector Lopez wrote:

I went ALL OUT this dis past weekend at a loco 5K. I busted my balls more dan I ever had. I had nudding to lose so I went out in 4:00.....Yeah, you heard me... FOUR POINT ZERO !! Dat takes MUCHO GONADOS !! I was able to hang on for anudder 4 and then anudder!! I PR'ed by a few minutes and I ended up running the Bestest 5K eber recorded!!

http://www.runnersimage.net/showresults.php?race_id=614

HECTOR has arrived !!!

Beijing 2008 !!!!

HAHAHA I was so confused at first but after reading the link...this may be the funniest thread I've ever read. I'm either in a really good mood or this guy is extra witty.

If you have trashed your quads on big trail race descents, to the point of not being able to run because of the knife like pain that stabs each quad on impact. And you are limited to a just bearable painful walk, then I class this as having gone all out.

Stupid yeah, but I've been there done that. My quads were trembling, bordering on going into spasm.

people do die during marathons.

i donno her name but some woman in the euro champs marathon this summer (she was either in a medal position or close)went "all out". Her legs stopped working in the last 100m - she wasnt walking or running, i donno how to describe what the f*** her legs were doing. And nautrally enough she collapsed over the line