Any college golfer can routinely break 80, so, this shouldn't be an insurmountable standard. Yet, it seems like breaking 80 accords some respect. I'm sick of my co-workers, relatives, friends, talking about golf as if they're Bobby Jones, when most are lucky to break 100.
3hour marathon?
I think a 3 hour marathon is equivalent to breaking 80
Has anyone done both? I have PRs of 2:31 in the marathon and 85 on a legitimate 72-hole course. The golf PR was much tougher (and a bit lucky).
I'd say a 2:40 marathon is probably closer to a legit sub-80 round of golf. A 3:00 marathon might be like breaking 90 in golf - solid, but not spectacular. I've shot 86 a few times and broken 3:00 in the marathon, and neither is great shakes.
sounds fair wrote:
I think a 3 hour marathon is equivalent to breaking 80
Best Round - 78 - Jr Club Championships
Marathon - 2:48
83 - 2:19
That seems about fair. Truly breaking 80 on a par 72 course is very challenging, especially if you play EXACTLY by the rules.
Is it me or does almost every single golfer cheat? I guess being a runner who does not care what he shoots makes me more prone to be honest.
Unless a score was posted at a large tournament, I do not belief a single golfer's reported score.
Think of it this way: What if road races allowed you to time yourself and for verification of the time all the official needed to see was your stopwatch? Something tells me we would have a whole lot more local 14 minute 5k runners.
I don't know though, just my observations. . .
i shoot 79 when i played before i started xc in hs and i run a 10:08 3200
Breaking 80 in Golf = 30:00 5k (downhill)
I would go so far as to say that breaking 80 is like breaking 2:30... doable but damn difficult and requiring a lot of work. Scratch is like breaking 2:20, not that I'd know on either.
103 - 2:50 YEAH BITCHES!!
I suck.
to wit: a high school golfer averaging 80 on a moderate course is pretty commonplace. my brother, a 9 handicapper, was 4th or 5th man on a mediocre high school team. he will be fortunate to make a mediocre Division 3 program.
this career progression seems to parallel with somewhere around an 18 minute high school 5k. therefore, i suggest that an average score of 80 is equivalent to around an 18 minute 5k.
on the mercier table, this equates to just under a 3 hr. marathon, though in my experience, an 18 minute 5k is closer to a 3:10-3:20 marathon.
note: breaking 80 ONCE has no equivalent in running, since it is far more unlikely that someone will have one extreme performance outlier and nothing else in the same ballpark.
Well, some of us just plain suck at golf then, lessons and all.
douche bag daryl wrote:
Is it me or does almost every single golfer cheat? I guess being a runner who does not care what he shoots makes me more prone to be honest.
I think a lot of golfers cheat, and a lot of them "bend" the rules. The obvious example being the "mulligan". Or another "rule" around golfers of my horrible ability: You can't score worse than double the par for that hole. We have that one in place just so we don't play too slow on a busy course.
I think these are fair because we are open about what "our" rules are, and we're just playing for fun anyway. I don't go around bragging about my handicap though, so to anyone except for the people I play with, my score doesn't matter.
knownothing wrote:
note: breaking 80 ONCE has no equivalent in running, since it is far more unlikely that someone will have one extreme performance outlier and nothing else in the same ballpark.
Agreed...a better question would be: a 3 hour marathon is equivalent to a handicap of X.
I would guess X = 8.
77, a bunch of 78's and 79's
2:28 marathon PR, a bunch of sub-2:33s
There ya go. That MUST settle the debate.
Duffer wrote:
I would go so far as to say that breaking 80 is like breaking 2:30... doable but damn difficult and requiring a lot of work. Scratch is like breaking 2:20,
I really disagree. Over 7,000 golfers every year enter qualifying tournaments trying to qualify for the US Open. To even enter a qualifying tournament, your golf handicap cannot exceed 1.4. There are literally thousands of scratch golfers in the United States.
Now, how many 2:20 marathoners are there in the United States in any given year? Just a few dozen at mnost. I say that being a scratch golfer is like being a 2:40 marathoner. Breaking 80 in golf is more like breaking 2:50 - 2:55 in the marathon.
most on this board try extremely hard at running and at best pursue golf leisurely; therefore it may seem that fast times come fairly easily while improving our short games is immensely challenging. i'm doing well to break 100 most days, and i've run ~15:00 for 5k, but i certainly wouldn't say the two are close to equivalent. the 80, 90, 100 mile weeks that we put in are parallel with playing several hours of golf each day, and with a coach, no less. now think how your handicap would improve with that much attention to your game.
Well, some of us just plain suck at golf then, lessons and all.
And some of us just plain suck at running, 85 mile weeks and intervals and tempos and hills and all.
But yeah, I suck even worse at golf.
Ah, but this begs the real question:
Is a sub 2:20 and a sub 80 equally consuming of time?