I saw on the quote of the day on the front page, Tegenkamp said all that jazz about not being a puss and what not. At the end of the quote it says that he is running 85-90 "real miles" as opposed to his "badger miles" from his days at Wisconsin. Are badger miles like junk miles or what?
You count all your miles as 7:00 per mile. So if you run 70 minutes, that's a 10 mile run in your log, regardless of how far it actually was.
there is another thread that addresses this issue. basicly they are the amount of miles you would run if you were doing 7:00 a mile pace, even if they were going quite a bit faster. so if you were doin 70 badger miles a week, you could actually be doing close to 85-90 real miles
I believe you assume every run at 7 minute pace and then round up to the next 5 or zero. Meaning, if you want to go for an 8 mile run, you run for 60 minutes. If you want to go for a 9 mile run, you run for 65 minutes. Obviously they're traveling faster than 7 minute miles but I think it's a way so that they're sure they don't cheat themselves.
Am I correct or does anyone have a more accurate explanation?
Badger miles is a est of the total distance / by 7:00 / mile pace I think... Really, the guys are running 6:00 min pace, but the round everything up to 7:00 for ease of conversion... Exp... A 60 min run is 8.5 badger miles, although they might of run closer to 10 in 60 mins.
ahhh, I think we nalied this...
Thanks for the replies....it sounds like what I do everyday anyway, I just didn't know that system had a name.
I have always thought Badger miles were the strangest thing. Are they really they bad at math, or not know their routes or just have no concept of how to figure out how many miles they have run. I have been doing this for many, many years and can guess my miles pretty accurately each day without having to do something like Badger miles. So basically they don't really know how many miles a week they are running, which seems quite strange. Each week could differ as well depending on their pace. One week they may run 70 Badger miles and in reality they ran 85, but the next week they may have been more tired and run 70 Badger miles, but really only ran 80. What is the point. Why not just figure out your miles.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Badgers and think they are an awesome program and Jerry is an amazing coach, but Badger miles just seem strange.
So pretty much what Teg is saying is that he knows how many miles per week. Which is why he is not getting hurt as of late. Simple as that.
I'm wondering if this isn't just clever way to disincent running too fast on easy days. If you are only going to get credit for running 10 miles for a 70 minute run, no sense in running faster than 7:00 - assuming you are a young college kid in a highly competitive atmosphere where there is great incentive to show how big your balls are every day.
Now we just need a name for the opposite. Might I suggest "Gopher Miles"? This is where you do the Ford Bridge loop at 5:30 pace on easy days. Twelve Gopher miles.
NOrunner wrote:
So pretty much what Teg is saying is that he knows how many miles per week. Which is why he is not getting hurt as of late. Simple as that.
What does this have to with Badger miles, which Teg is no longer doing it sounds like. It sounds like he is figuring out his real mileage, which makes it easier to track your training from year to year, which Badger miles do not.
That is what I said douche!!!!!!!He knows how many miles he is running right now. As before it was just an estimate. Got it dude. Is this clear enough for you to read.
Squid wrote:
I'm wondering if this isn't just clever way to disincent running too fast on easy days. If you are only going to get credit for running 10 miles for a 70 minute run, no sense in running faster than 7:00 - assuming you are a young college kid in a highly competitive atmosphere where there is great incentive to show how big your balls are every day.
I'll agree, but I still doubt they run 7:00 pace all that often. Maybe I'm wrong, though.
NOrunner wrote:
That is what I said douche!!!!!!!He knows how many miles he is running right now. As before it was just an estimate. Got it dude. Is this clear enough for you to read.
Sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying. My apologies.
R.L. Scribner wrote:
Squid wrote:I'm wondering if this isn't just clever way to disincent running too fast on easy days. If you are only going to get credit for running 10 miles for a 70 minute run, no sense in running faster than 7:00 - assuming you are a young college kid in a highly competitive atmosphere where there is great incentive to show how big your balls are every day.
I'll agree, but I still doubt they run 7:00 pace all that often. Maybe I'm wrong, though.
You're both right. I will say that I have seen them running pretty easy as a group sometimes. But I don't know how many miles they counted that as.
Also, I don't think "disincent" is a word. I think you have to use "discourage".
Disincent not a word? Now you're getting all granular on me.
Seriously, though, any strategy to get the studs to slow it down even once in awhile is going to have benefits. Plus, you get some camaraderie points going.
You all have it wrong. What Coach S does is send the boyz out for a run. He then has a real live badger chase them. Anybody who falls behind gets ripped apart by the beast. This is why the Wisco guys have all those "injuries" they are not injuries at all but simply wounds inflicted by the rabid badger. The main idea is that a person always has more to give - they just need to be motovated to push the limit. The badger forces each runner to dig down and break through barriers and really push the body. The team uses the whole "miles based on 7 min pace" thing to protect Coach S from the people at PETA and although nothing is written in the NCAA by-laws about such training methods, I am sure he would come under some heat from the head office if this was known.
R.L. Scribner wrote:
Squid wrote:I'm wondering if this isn't just clever way to disincent running too fast on easy days. If you are only going to get credit for running 10 miles for a 70 minute run, no sense in running faster than 7:00 - assuming you are a young college kid in a highly competitive atmosphere where there is great incentive to show how big your balls are every day.
I'll agree, but I still doubt they run 7:00 pace all that often. Maybe I'm wrong, though.
yea more likely you are.