I was just wondering what the fastest recorded last lap ever is in a race 800m and up. Has anyone ever closed under 50. Has there ever been a tactical 800 which went 55 50? I have never seen that but just wondering. I know some great 1500m finishers off memory are morcelli in world championships and ryun at the 68 trials. Both of those were 50 point i think? Any others?
Just off the top of my head...in a tactical 1500, the last lap can range anywhere from 51-53. I'm not sure but I can imagine in a tactical 800 the last lap would be easily under 50. Probably wouldn't be hard to find someone on this forum that knows for sure.
Herb Elliott ran 49.9 for 440 yards (=49.6 for 400) when beating Brian Hewson in a half mile race on dirt. I think it was 1958 and Elliott was 20 years old.
I believe at the GN Galan last year Webb & J.Johnson both went out in around 60 & closed in under 50 (finishing in 1:48). I think I remember hearing it was pouring down rain.
some fastest last laps in 1500m championships from the Morceli era:
51.5....Morceli....1991 WC
50.2....Cacho......1992 Olympics (* I might be off by a tenth)
50.6....Morceli....1993 WC
51.3....Morceli....1995 WC
53.6....Morceli....1996 Olympics
51.5....ElGuerrouj.1997 WC
I thought the ElG website would have his splits, but it doesn't and I don't have my TFN's here right now to look them up. I don't think ElG went under 51sec for any of his WC's or Olympics. I think ElG's last lap in Athens was 52 high. I read somewhere that bronze medalist Rui Silva's last lap was 50.5
As for the 800, there was a heat in last year's WC's that went out in 57 and came back in 53 for a 1:50:
http://www.iaaf.org/WCH05/results/gender=M/discipline=800/combCode=hash/roundCode=h/index.html
(it's Borzo's heat)
Joel
Went to the TFN archive, ElG and Lagat both kicked in 51.9 at Athens '04, and Silva was 51.3. Rashid Ramzi kicked in 54.1 for his final 400 while second place Adil Kaouch had the fastest kick of the field in 53.1. This has to be the slowest WC's kick ever, a lot of damage Webb's surge did to the field evidently.
Don't know specifics, but Abdi Bile ran something like 1:34 for the last 700 meters in a championship meet. Was it the WC? I'm getting old. Someone fill in the details, please.
to clean up the list:
51.5....Morceli....1991 WC
50.2....Cacho......1992 Olympics (* I might be off by a tenth)
50.6....Morceli....1993 WC
51.3....Morceli....1995 WC
53.6....Morceli....1996 Olympics
51.5....ElGuerrouj.1997 WC
53.9....ElGuerrouj.2003 WC
51.9....ElGuerrouj.2004 Olympics (but Silva had 51.3)
54.1....Ramzi......2005 WC (but Kaouch had 53.1)
I have heard many times that Miruts Yifter won the African 10,000 champs closing in 49 sec for his last lap but I have nothing to back it up! Tergat and Geb probably have the fastest last 800m in 10,000 championship race.
Tetreault I knew I'd find YOU on this thread. You're such a homo for Morceli. ;-)
Get back to work!
I knew it would be a matter of time before you or Ben Lewis Helms found the one time every 6 months that I post here :)
What can I say...I am sucker for 1500m stats. I have the fastest last lap splits somewhere at home for most 1500m races, just have to dig them up.
I've got a bot running that emails me whenever "Vermonster", "Morceli", or "obsessive 1500 stats guru" is found on the boards.
mandingo wrote:
I have heard many times that Miruts Yifter won the African 10,000 champs
Log on to Dyestat many times?
It was the British Empire & Commonwealth Games of 1958 in Cardiff, Wales that you are refering to I believe. The final time was 1:49.2 over 880 yards with a 58 first lap. Still, an amazing time by an amazing athlete, who also won the mile in those same games in 3:59.
I have a video of Abde Bile winning the 87 WC 1500m (in 3:35). I timed him at 1:45.9 for his last 800m in that race. Incredible stuff. In order to win a major championships you have to be able to close like this
Didn't Bekele run the last lap of the 10K at the last Olympics in something insane like 52.x?
t 800
Sebastian Coe Ecup79 200 in 24.1 for 1:46.3
Tom McKean, Nixon Kiprotich and Jens-Peter Herold in the 1989 World Cup
200 in 24.9 for 1:44.94/1:45.03/1:45.09
At 1500
Said Aouita Grosseto 84 300 in 36 for 3:34.81
Sebastian Coe OG 84 400 in 53.0 for 3:32.53
Steve Cram and Jose-Luis Gonzalez in the 1987 European Cup
400 in 49.9 for 3:45.5
Abdi Bile, Sebastian Coe and Jens-Peter Herold in the 1989 World Cup
300 in 37.7/37.8 for 3:35.57/3:35.7
Nourredine Morceli WC91 400 in 51.4 for 3:32.85
Nourredine Morceli WC93 400 in 50.6 for 3:34.23
At 5000
Said Aouita Oslo 85 400 in 53.9 for 13:00.40WR (pursued by Maree)
Said Aouita WC 87 400 in 52.8 for 13:26.3
Dieter Baumann OG 92 200 in 24.9 for a 13:12.5.
[my addition ]
{
Nourredin Morceli Zurich 17.8.94
400 in 51.93 for 13:03.xx
one of best 5000m fields ever!
}
At 10000
Juha Vaatainen EC 71 400 in 52.8 for 27:51? (not sure about the total)
Fita Bayesa Oslo 92 400 in 53.9 for 27:15 (Chelimo 54.8 same rac
Bile's time was actually 3:36.80:
http://www.sporting-heroes.net/athletics-heroes/displayhero.asp?HeroID=105
he said the fastest lap in a race 800m and up...
this should obviously be the first lap of elite 800s..
the front-runners go out in the 48-49 range often..