In an open letter, the faculty members pointed to a November report from the University of California San Diego Senate-Administration Workgroup on Admissions, which revealed that the number of first-year students with math skills below a middle school level increased nearly 30-fold since 2020, when the system first suspended its standardized testing requirements.
Wow, turns out prioritizing race, sexuality and inflated high school GPAs for college admissions wasn’t such a good idea. Who would have guessed!
In an open letter, the faculty members pointed to a November report from the University of California San Diego Senate-Administration Workgroup on Admissions, which revealed that the number of first-year students with math skills below a middle school level increased nearly 30-fold since 2020, when the system first suspended its standardized testing requirements.
Wow, turns out prioritizing race, sexuality and inflated high school GPAs for college admissions wasn’t such a good idea. Who would have guessed!
UC's "technically" aren't allowed to use race but they do it regardless. Look at UCLA med. I believe black applicants were 28 times more likely (not 28% more likely – 2800% more likely) to be accepted than an Asian or white applicant with the same scores / grades:
Wow, turns out prioritizing race, sexuality and inflated high school GPAs for college admissions wasn’t such a good idea. Who would have guessed!
UC's "technically" aren't allowed to use race but they do it regardless. Look at UCLA med. I believe black applicants were 28 times more likely (not 28% more likely – 2800% more likely) to be accepted than an Asian or white applicant with the same scores / grades:
In an open letter, the faculty members pointed to a November report from the University of California San Diego Senate-Administration Workgroup on Admissions, which revealed that the number of first-year students with math skills below a middle school level increased nearly 30-fold since 2020, when the system first suspended its standardized testing requirements.
Wow, turns out prioritizing race, sexuality and inflated high school GPAs for college admissions wasn’t such a good idea. Who would have guessed!
That’s a good thing but doesn’t matter much to mouth breathing Trumpers that don’t value education.
Wow, turns out prioritizing race, sexuality and inflated high school GPAs for college admissions wasn’t such a good idea. Who would have guessed!
UC's "technically" aren't allowed to use race but they do it regardless. Look at UCLA med. I believe black applicants were 28 times more likely (not 28% more likely – 2800% more likely) to be accepted than an Asian or white applicant with the same scores / grades:
UC's "technically" aren't allowed to use race but they do it regardless. Look at UCLA med. I believe black applicants were 28 times more likely (not 28% more likely – 2800% more likely) to be accepted than an Asian or white applicant with the same scores / grades:
Wow, turns out prioritizing race, sexuality and inflated high school GPAs for college admissions wasn’t such a good idea. Who would have guessed!
UC's "technically" aren't allowed to use race but they do it regardless. Look at UCLA med. I believe black applicants were 28 times more likely (not 28% more likely – 2800% more likely) to be accepted than an Asian or white applicant with the same scores / grades:
Yep, and UCLA certainly isn’t the only one. Libs don’t want equal opportunity. They don’t believe in the codified and inalienable, God given rights to life, liberty, and the “pursuit” of happiness. What they want is to mandate equal outcomes and “guaranteed” happiness and to do it with your federal tax dollars.
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Yep, and UCLA certainly isn’t the only one. Libs don’t want equal opportunity. They don’t believe in the codified and inalienable, God given rights to life, liberty, and the “pursuit” of happiness. What they want is to mandate equal outcomes and “guaranteed” happiness and to do it with your federal tax dollars.
So “libs” want to “mandate equal outcomes”? I know or suspect that some do (more or less), and that many others support policies that are at least partially contrived to do something like that.
But you come on here posturing as though you’re deeply attached to facts and logic, and that you support intellectual rigor.
And then you wind up painting with a broad brush and spouting alarmist talking points.
FWIW, I probably oppose a number of related policies that you oppose and would support a number of policy changes you support. You might believe in your own sense of fairness, which is something I’m probably pretty close to, but probably believe and I’m more nuanced version of than you might see. You also probably believe you are serving an exact and well-established standard. I’d agree that you’re probably closer to it then some of the fools on the other side of the issue, but I haven’t seen enough to know that you really have given enough thought to the issue to promote standards appropriately. And I also dislike unintended consequences of test-optional policies that actually risk undermining their goals (e.g., see studies that conclude things like “The researchers show that test-optional policies are detrimental to high-achieving, disadvantaged students”).
UC's "technically" aren't allowed to use race but they do it regardless. Look at UCLA med. I believe black applicants were 28 times more likely (not 28% more likely – 2800% more likely) to be accepted than an Asian or white applicant with the same scores / grades:
Your evidence that they use race in admissions is that too many blacks got in?
Is the average black applicant 28 times more qualified than the average Asian or white applicant? This chart uses the older version of the MCAT (different scale) but does this make any sense? https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/med1.jpg
Is the average black applicant 28 times more qualified than the average Asian or white applicant? This chart uses the older version of the MCAT (different scale) but does this make any sense? https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/med1.jpg
That’s very interesting. Have you seen any analysis that suggests why Hispanics in those years have a significantly higher MCAT average than whites but a significantly lower average GPA?
are you really so naive you believe that when inner city schools average 900, suburban schools average 1100, and elite private schools average 1400 on the SAT, that's natural "talent?"
and that's why schools are experimenting with other ideas of assessment.
if you want to get smacked back, what the current predicament also suggests is you can't trust GPA, that it means different things different places. because they apparently shifted towards grades. only to find HS grades aren't predicting well enough who is ready for college math. worse than the skewed SAT it seems.
Your evidence that they use race in admissions is that too many blacks got in?
Is the average black applicant 28 times more qualified than the average Asian or white applicant? This chart uses the older version of the MCAT (different scale) but does this make any sense? https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/med1.jpg
Is or is not your argument that they must be factoring race into admissions because there are too many blacks?
are you really so naive you believe that when inner city schools average 900, suburban schools average 1100, and elite private schools average 1400 on the SAT, that's natural "talent?"
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If you want scare quotes around “talent,” why not around “natural” as well? Even if you want to complicate a discussion of intelligence (which some may consider nuthin but a g thang and others may view differently), a broader sense of academic aptitude as measured by tests in late high school nevertheless draws on both heredity and environment in ways that may be complicated but would still allow for substantial differences among those populations.
Is the average black applicant 28 times more qualified than the average Asian or white applicant? This chart uses the older version of the MCAT (different scale) but does this make any sense? https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/med1.jpg
That’s very interesting. Have you seen any analysis that suggests why Hispanics in those years have a significantly higher MCAT average than whites but a significantly lower average GPA?
No idea why. Every standardized test (you name it – SAT, GMAT, MCAT, etc) goes Asian > white > Hispanic > black. According to this the same trend holds:
Is the average black applicant 28 times more qualified than the average Asian or white applicant? This chart uses the older version of the MCAT (different scale) but does this make any sense? https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/med1.jpg
Is or is not your argument that they must be factoring race into admissions because there are too many blacks?
It's impossible they don't have a whole hand on the scale (not even a "thumb").
It's impossible they don't have a whole hand on the scale (not even a "thumb").
Impossible because there are too many blacks and because you believe an SAT score is perfectly synonymous with qualification.
It's not the only thing but i think MCAT and GPA are probably the 2 best indicators. And there are differences across groups. I think most stem from culture - as a whole, Asian culture values education a lot more than black culture (it also values education more than white culture). Ergo, Asians do better in school and thus should be "overrepresented"; the latter should hold as well. If not then racial preferences are involved.
Impossible because there are too many blacks and because you believe an SAT score is perfectly synonymous with qualification.
It's not the only thing but i think MCAT and GPA are probably the 2 best indicators. And there are differences across groups. I think most stem from culture - as a whole, Asian culture values education a lot more than black culture (it also values education more than white culture). Ergo, Asians do better in school and thus should be "overrepresented"; the latter should hold as well. If not then racial preferences are involved.
