Question about so many DNF's...

yawn.

abe lincoln wrote:

yawn.

No wonder John Wilkes Booth shot you in the head.

No doubt. What a douche bag.

coach bigfoot wrote:

abe lincoln wrote:

yawn.

No wonder John Wilkes Booth shot you in the head.

HAHAHAHAHA I just disturbed the office with my laughter!

Never give up is just a mindless value. There are plenty of good reasons to "give up." Its a good general rule, so you don't just give up when something gets hard, but once something is impossible, why not?

Conservation of energy is a good reason. They wouldn't be running at race pace for those extra miles they would be running without the race. I'm sure the race officials would really appreciate someone running the second half of the 10k at nationals at 6 min. pace.

Heck, maybe it is a lame reason like they don't want to officially record a really sub-par time. So what?

Mindless value wrote:

Never give up is just a mindless value. There are plenty of good reasons to "give up." Its a good general rule, so you don't just give up when something gets hard, but once something is impossible, why not?

Not to sound like an adidas ad, but impossible is nothing. And what is it worth when people do something where quitting would have been expected, but finishing is the point.

I.E.- Ian Conner in 3000sc his Senior year at OSU. Had the race easily in hand, but broke his leg over the last water barrier. He finished dead last with a broken leg. Tell me that quitting would been the best thing to do??

Something like that gives people hope. Seeing someone like McDougal, who people claim will win NCAA XC next year drop out of a race for no other reason, but b/c he couldn't win is a joke, IMO.

Mindless value wrote:

Heck, maybe it is a lame reason like they don't want to officially record a really sub-par time. So what?

For many who are chasing or trying to keep sponsorship, a bad time can make or break the sponsorship. A DNF is a better alternative for many of these types.

You are an Ohio State homo. What about Robert Gary? He had far more DNF's this season than he did finishes. Please don't tell me some lame hurt foot excuse. He knew it was hurt before he started each and every race.

I think you need to look a little closer to the results. There were a number of DNS's because of the postponement of the 10,000 meter race. DNS means "did not start". It would have been hard to double in that time frame.

Heard it through the grapevine wrote:

You are an Ohio State homo. What about Robert Gary? He had far more DNF's this season than he did finishes. Please don't tell me some lame hurt foot excuse. He knew it was hurt before he started each and every race.

You wish you could be an Ohio State homo. And funny, you know me...I post under my name. Who the h*ll are you?!?! Haha...a NOBODY.

And I said a DNF is ok due to injury. You wish you had a tenth of the talent of Gary.

One other thing about this is USATF held onto a number of late entries trying to fill the fields in all of the events. They allowed some people into events very late (and they also told people who were "pending", "No" rather late). This was to ensure that the fields were full, but not overloaded.

The number of DNS's in the meet kind of pissed me off, because there were a number of people who would have been allowed to race if they would have just scratched prior to the meet (obviously not all of them knew ahead of time, but still, I find it hard to believe many of them could not be avoided).

There were certainly some tremendous performances through out the meet, but, with this being an "off year" internationally, there was some very laxed attitudes from many individuals qualified/participating in the meet...

joh wrote:

I think you need to look a little closer to the results. There were a number of DNS's because of the postponement of the 10,000 meter race. DNS means "did not start". It would have been hard to double in that time frame.

I think that you should look closer. There is one DNS. But thanks for telling me what DNS means, it was my first track meet.

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Seeing someone like McDougal, who people claim will win NCAA XC next year drop out of a race for no other reason, but b/c he couldn't win is a joke, IMO.[/quote]

You obviously weren't there watching McDougal puke his guts out. I'm not sure I've ever seen a person besides Regan from the Exorcist puke that much. I felt sorry for the kid since his was kneeling in it.

Great race by Olinger, awesome time!

Scooby Dauby Doo wrote:

Great race by Olinger, awesome time!

Since you can quote other people's times and call them out on their sub par preformance, tell me...what are your PR's?

And were you even in the race? I would be willing to be that you could run 2600m sc and still get beat by Olinger.

Dauby,

You are so quick to call others out. How did the national meet go for you? It went horribly for me. But I did finish better than either Olinger or Gary did this year. It is great to celebrate the successes of your team, but you started this obnoxious thread and then get pissed when it comes back to bite you in the ass. Robert had no reason to run this event. Everyone new he was going to DNF. Then you ask why so many DNF's.

Likely story wrote:

Dauby,

You are so quick to call others out. How did the national meet go for you? It went horribly for me. But I did finish better than either Olinger or Gary did this year. It is great to celebrate the successes of your team, but you started this obnoxious thread and then get pissed when it comes back to bite you in the ass. Robert had no reason to run this event. Everyone new he was going to DNF. Then you ask why so many DNF's.

Well, I'm sorry to hear that the national meet went bad for you. It looks as if your education wasn't so great either. Because, everyone "Knew" he was going to do bad, not "new." (there's a "k" in that version of Knew) And you obviously cannot read as I started the thread by saying DNF's due to injury is understandable.

And so you beat Olinger and Gary over the weekend. Great, then why not use your name to post? I use mine. I've got nothing to hide. You shouldn't either. I mean, you did beat a 2x Olympian and the 2nd fastest American steepler while in college ever. Thus, you're obviously better.

As for me, I didn't run. I'm not that good. But, I am a fan. A disappointed fan at that. To see so many elite runners quit for no other reason other than not being able to win...that's all.

I don't know if I believe Dauby really knows the OSU guys. They're not like him at all! As for Gary, it's obvious his foot has been injured, but he did run under 8:25 in the steeplechase last summer 2 different times after having to drop out of the USA finals last year. Pretty sure only 3 Americans ran faster. So why not give the guy a break? I wouldn't be surprised to see him rebound again. If he doesn't; the guy may just enjoy racing still; he seems like a pretty tough guy.