Jakob Ingebrigtsen gjør alt for å unngå at fjorårets mareritt skal gjenta seg. Men landslagslegen sier det kan ta lang tid før han er tilbake for fullt.
You guys have downvoted this 21-3. You guys are so predictable. But how is it you cannot understand the obvious? Or maybe you are downvoting my praise for his career? It has been fabulous.
Wightman missed more time and had bigger setbacks than Jakob. He’s also at least 5 years older and doesn’t have the aerobic base or durability either. But he came back and medaled and nearly won the 1500 last year at world champs, even after contemplating retirement.
There is no reason to think Jakob can’t be back just as good as he was in the 1500, and better in the longer distances.
Some people are acting like he’s been out for so long when in reality, at this time last year he was coming off indoor WR in the 1500, and double gold at world indoors.
And are people forgetting he already came back from an Achilles injury on the other side a few years ago without any problems?
Even with his injury and limited training he still made it to worlds and ran 13 flat. Fisher has missed worlds before due to injury and has had underwhelming/non-existent outdoor season, and Hocker has too (also from Achilles for Hocker). nobody batted an eye at the time and now theyre running as well as ever.
At this point, any concern about Jakob’s long term future is just some combination of hysteria, naivety, stupidity, lack of understanding of the sport, and/or being an impatient prisoner of the moment.
Wightman missed more time and had bigger setbacks than Jakob. He’s also at least 5 years older and doesn’t have the aerobic base or durability either. But he came back and medaled and nearly won the 1500 last year at world champs, even after contemplating retirement.
There is no reason to think Jakob can’t be back just as good as he was in the 1500, and better in the longer distances.
Some people are acting like he’s been out for so long when in reality, at this time last year he was coming off indoor WR in the 1500, and double gold at world indoors.
And are people forgetting he already came back from an Achilles injury on the other side a few years ago without any problems?
Even with his injury and limited training he still made it to worlds and ran 13 flat. Fisher has missed worlds before due to injury and has had underwhelming/non-existent outdoor season, and Hocker has too (also from Achilles for Hocker). nobody batted an eye at the time and now theyre running as well as ever.
At this point, any concern about Jakob’s long term future is just some combination of hysteria, naivety, stupidity, lack of understanding of the sport, and/or being an impatient prisoner of the moment.
You appear to be clueless about the fact that Jakob is turning 26 in a few months and he has been training hard for over a decade. So his peak years are over. This doesn’t mean he cannot run 3:28 and 12:45 ( he was once capable of faster), and be in contention for medals. His peak years are over. I sense you are a bit slow or do not grasp the meaning of “peak years.”
Wightman missed more time and had bigger setbacks than Jakob. He’s also at least 5 years older and doesn’t have the aerobic base or durability either. But he came back and medaled and nearly won the 1500 last year at world champs, even after contemplating retirement.
There is no reason to think Jakob can’t be back just as good as he was in the 1500, and better in the longer distances.
Some people are acting like he’s been out for so long when in reality, at this time last year he was coming off indoor WR in the 1500, and double gold at world indoors.
And are people forgetting he already came back from an Achilles injury on the other side a few years ago without any problems?
Even with his injury and limited training he still made it to worlds and ran 13 flat. Fisher has missed worlds before due to injury and has had underwhelming/non-existent outdoor season, and Hocker has too (also from Achilles for Hocker). nobody batted an eye at the time and now theyre running as well as ever.
At this point, any concern about Jakob’s long term future is just some combination of hysteria, naivety, stupidity, lack of understanding of the sport, and/or being an impatient prisoner of the moment.
You appear to be clueless about the fact that Jakob is turning 26 in a few months and he has been training hard for over a decade. So his peak years are over. This doesn’t mean he cannot run 3:28 and 12:45 ( he was once capable of faster), and be in contention for medals. His peak years are over. I sense you are a bit slow or do not grasp the meaning of “peak years.”
I do think 3:26.73, 7:17.55 and 4:43.13 will remain his best marks. “Nothing wrong with that.” He could still win more global 5k golds if he makes it 98% of the way back.
You appear to be clueless about the fact that Jakob is turning 26 in a few months and he has been training hard for over a decade. So his peak years are over. This doesn’t mean he cannot run 3:28 and 12:45 ( he was once capable of faster), and be in contention for medals. His peak years are over. I sense you are a bit slow or do not grasp the meaning of “peak years.”
I do think 3:26.73, 7:17.55 and 4:43.13 will remain his best marks. “Nothing wrong with that.” He could still win more global 5k golds if he makes it 98% of the way back.
I don't agree with this analysis. He won't be back anywhere near peak levels this year. If he gets a good winter with no more setbacks he will be back at 99pc next year, good enough to win gold at WC 5k but not claim the 15WR. It's 2028 where he will peak if nothing more happens. The injuries can sometimes provide an enforced break from the highest intensity superload training that the body needs, of course depending on duration and long-term effects. Sometimes 18months to two years after an enforced layoff is the right period for a measured return to top form.
Steve Ovett came back from the severe railing impaling in Dec 1981, not in 1982 when he was barely base-trained, but in 1983 when he retook the 1500 WR. Same age as Jakob atm also.
Peter Elliott similarly after his 1988 campaign ended with repeated cortisone injections before his OG silver, then returned late in 89 in not-peak form but by early 1990 was clearly world #1.
I think we will get a sense of how things are going pretty soon, if he joins Almgren in sierra in the next couple of weeks, things are most likely going really well and he might be competing before euros. If he stays in sandnes, he is probably not back to full training yet.
Does anyone know how much time he ended up missing with this achilles injury? Did he get up to full volume/training in the offseason before it flared up?
Seems clear to me the achilles was the inevitable result of a severe training regime which got him golds but also the injury. He's not going to get back to world gold level.
Seems clear to me the achilles was the inevitable result of a severe training regime which got him golds but also the injury. He's not going to get back to world gold level.
Well, yeah. Doesn't anyone understand the reason he's continually injured is because he can't stop overtraining.
the biggest mistake jakob ever made was not getting the surgery last year in June or July. I'm guessing the cross training hype from the past few years tricked him into thinking he could still be close to himself for the championship. A lesson hard learned.
or maybe the biggest mistake he ever made was the Euro and worlds double double. he was ready to break some records last year.
You said ‘what a career’ implying it was over. But he can still be in medal contention at major championships on the track for the next 10 years.
He currently has 2 OLY Golds, 2 WC Golds, 2 WC Silver. Those are what define his career, more so than his marks (and WR in off distances/indoors).
It’s totally possible that he doubles that medal count by the time he’s done on the track. So why are you so counting him out and writing him off so hastily?
He’s 25 not 35 and you also are disregarding that he’s come back and run his best times after a comeback from a bum Achilles on the other side. Why can’t he do the same now?
El G ran the WR 1500 when he was 23 and ran 0.12 slower when he was 26 for his second fastest time. His 3rd fastest he was 23, 4th and 5th fastest were at age 27 (and 5 days off his 28th birthday). You also have to considered the psychology of having the WR. You’re much less motivated to run a faster time when you already have the WR. Had Guerrouj lost it when he was 26 he very well may have had the capability to run faster and reclaim it
Lagat’s 5 fastest times he was ages: 26, 29, 27, 25, 29.
