I don’t think he’s fast enough/maintained enough publicity to secure a pro contract. I only see him mentioned on these boards and nowhere else.
Rinaldi mentioned in another thread that he’d be interested in training him up but I think that’s a big if as to whether or not Flatt is interested. His lack of posting and his slower times tell me he might be mentally checked out.
It would be really cool to see him disappear for a couple of years and have a more humble version of him get into the mix when he’s ready but I’m not sure that’s the direction he’s taking his life.
Best of luck to him either way
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As a pro? He has run 1:49.20 in college. That's a solid time, but it isn't getting a contract. He will hopefully find his old form and pr this spring, but he is a senior. He'd need a huge pr to get a contract. A good goal for him would be scoring at conference. Putting up points in a relay and the 800 would be a highlight of his college career.
Yes, he ran 1:46.48 as a high schooler, but he hasn't run at that level in years. Once athletes fall off in the middle distances, that's kind of it, its super rare that an athlete finds his old form and suddenly is running times faster than a pr from 4 years ago.
Look he had a pretty good run - he got to compete for a top middle distance team and got college paid for. To get the tiniest shoe deal, he probably needs to run like 1:45.mid . To even think of running as a pro, he needs to run sub 1:45. 145.60 is the USATF outdoor nats qualifying standard and that is prob the minimum you need in the 800 to get a few grand from a shoe sponsor.
These assessments are based on current US athletes with a) a contract and b) on a subelite development team. The 144 high guy is a better miler than an 800 runner - so really it would be 144low to mid or 144high in a big tactical race which he wins.
Nobody knows for sure because the reality is that predictions are mostly futile. Nobody guessed that Athing Mu was going to flame out so soon or that Cole Hocker was going to win gold. Those are just two examples out of many. It’s not unheard of for runners to suck in college and then succeed as a pro when they find a system that works better for them. Georgia Bell is a prime example; a collegiate also-ran and now a multiple global medalist at 32 years old. Matt Tegencamp is an often overlooked example. Not a very consistent or healthy collegiate career but ends up 4th at a WCs. So it’s technically not impossible for Cade to improve, but it is really going to depend on his motivation and priorities. Everyone has speculated the last few years on here about why he has stagnated so much, but any minimal amount of research shows these are mostly rumors and assumptions. There isn’t much evidence out there for why he’s struggled so much. All we can do is just wait and see. In terms of likability, he will probably be the same arrogant self since personality traits don’t normally change much in one’s lifetime. But that’s okay because it’s fun when track has villains anyway; makes the sport more interesting.
As a pro? He has run 1:49.20 in college. That's a solid time, but it isn't getting a contract. He will hopefully find his old form and pr this spring, but he is a senior. He'd need a huge pr to get a contract. A good goal for him would be scoring at conference. Putting up points in a relay and the 800 would be a highlight of his college career.
Yes, he ran 1:46.48 as a high schooler, but he hasn't run at that level in years. Once athletes fall off in the middle distances, that's kind of it, its super rare that an athlete finds his old form and suddenly is running times faster than a pr from 4 years ago.
Look he had a pretty good run - he got to compete for a top middle distance team and got college paid for. To get the tiniest shoe deal, he probably needs to run like 1:45.mid . To even think of running as a pro, he needs to run sub 1:45. 145.60 is the USATF outdoor nats qualifying standard and that is prob the minimum you need in the 800 to get a few grand from a shoe sponsor.
These assessments are based on current US athletes with a) a contract and b) on a subelite development team. The 144 high guy is a better miler than an 800 runner - so really it would be 144low to mid or 144high in a big tactical race which he wins.
Josh Hoey is one of those rare exceptions. Flatt was faster in HS (albeit a 19 y.o. HSer) than Hoey...but Hoey also had very strong aerobics unlike Flatt. Also, Hoey had unlimited financial support, superior coaching and perhaps pharmaceutical "help".
Flatt was slower at 800 in college than in HS and was never a fast 400 guy period, ans lacks aerobic fitness so I'm pretty sure his apex moment has passed.
As a pro? He has run 1:49.20 in college. That's a solid time, but it isn't getting a contract. He will hopefully find his old form and pr this spring, but he is a senior. He'd need a huge pr to get a contract. A good goal for him would be scoring at conference. Putting up points in a relay and the 800 would be a highlight of his college career.
Yes, he ran 1:46.48 as a high schooler, but he hasn't run at that level in years. Once athletes fall off in the middle distances, that's kind of it, its super rare that an athlete finds his old form and suddenly is running times faster than a pr from 4 years ago.
Look he had a pretty good run - he got to compete for a top middle distance team and got college paid for. To get the tiniest shoe deal, he probably needs to run like 1:45.mid . To even think of running as a pro, he needs to run sub 1:45. 145.60 is the USATF outdoor nats qualifying standard and that is prob the minimum you need in the 800 to get a few grand from a shoe sponsor.
These assessments are based on current US athletes with a) a contract and b) on a subelite development team. The 144 high guy is a better miler than an 800 runner - so really it would be 144low to mid or 144high in a big tactical race which he wins.
Josh Hoey is one of those rare exceptions. Flatt was faster in HS (albeit a 19 y.o. HSer) than Hoey...but Hoey also had very strong aerobics unlike Flatt. Also, Hoey had unlimited financial support, superior coaching and perhaps pharmaceutical "help".
Flatt was slower at 800 in college than in HS and was never a fast 400 guy period, ans lacks aerobic fitness so I'm pretty sure his apex moment has passed.
Man what I would give to watch Flatt crush Hoey in a 800 this summer :'(
looks like his major will lend itself to working at an insurance company
But it’s from Ole Miss and he’s an athlete - so did he really learn anything?
You think that matters for an insurance company? An overly confident former athlete who can put two sentences together is exactly the profile of a successful insurance agent. They're just salesmen (and women) after all.
But it’s from Ole Miss and he’s an athlete - so did he really learn anything?
You think that matters for an insurance company? An overly confident former athlete who can put two sentences together is exactly the profile of a successful insurance agent. They're just salesmen (and women) after all.
How many years do you foresee him running successfully as a pro, LRC?
I could see him giving it a go as a “pro” with a kit/shoe deal. Like Under Armour in Baltimore. Those with less talent have done more on the pro circuit.
How many years do you foresee him running successfully as a pro, LRC?
I could see him giving it a go as a “pro” with a kit/shoe deal. Like Under Armour in Baltimore. Those with less talent have done more on the pro circuit.
The real world will wait.
He will need to run faster than he has in four years for that kit/shoe deal. Otherwise he can pay his own way to whatever fast summer meets there are - but what would be the point. He hasnt run a 800 pr in college.
But it’s from Ole Miss and he’s an athlete - so did he really learn anything?
You think that matters for an insurance company? An overly confident former athlete who can put two sentences together is exactly the profile of a successful insurance agent. They're just salesmen (and women) after all.
I could be wrong, but a "risk management and insurance" major doesn't really seem to be tailored to an agent. More like a back office role.