Winner Ben Allen (3:53.40) certainly demonstrated that he was a high quality choice for pacer at Millrose, just ahead of teammate Eric Holt (3:53.7), both six seconds faster than Clevenger, the transfer from Iowa State.
Impressive run by Seth running a sub four minute mile probably equal to round 339 to 341 for 1500 and he recently ran 7:54 for 3000 indoors so he's reached a new level and good for him even though there are some people who view his performances as negatively for whatever reason. At Iowa State he was like a 4:10 type miler so he's reached a completely new different level and he's (probably ) as clean as a whistle most likely having been tested since the debacle at Iowa State.
Let this dude, S.C. get on with his running career. He's faced a lot of stress.
Impressive run by Seth running a sub four minute mile probably equal to round 339 to 341 for 1500 and he recently ran 7:54 for 3000 indoors so he's reached a new level and good for him even though there are some people who view his performances as negatively for whatever reason. At Iowa State he was like a 4:10 type miler so he's reached a completely new different level and he's (probably ) as clean as a whistle most likely having been tested since the debacle at Iowa State.
Let this dude, S.C. get on with his running career. He's faced a lot of stress.
Thank you.
It shows that EPO can take you 10+ seconds in a mile...
Impressive run by Seth running a sub four minute mile probably equal to round 339 to 341 for 1500 and he recently ran 7:54 for 3000 indoors so he's reached a new level and good for him even though there are some people who view his performances as negatively for whatever reason. At Iowa State he was like a 4:10 type miler so he's reached a completely new different level and he's (probably ) as clean as a whistle most likely having been tested since the debacle at Iowa State.
Let this dude, S.C. get on with his running career. He's faced a lot of stress.
Thank you.
It shows that EPO can take you 10+ seconds in a mile...
About 3:41.7 time divided by 1.08 239.41 secs divided by 1.08 for 1500M converted to...
It shows that EPO can take you 10+ seconds in a mile...
About 3:41.7 time divided by 1.08 239.41 secs divided by 1.08 for 1500M converted to...
I meant about a 3:41.7
The mile time divided by 1.08
He is in any way suspect, any further..what was the suspension for? If it was for drugs? Is this just suspicion.. or a failed test, if a failed test? No way he could still be competing
About 3:41.7 time divided by 1.08 239.41 secs divided by 1.08 for 1500M converted to...
I meant about a 3:41.7
The mile time divided by 1.08
He is in any way suspect, any further..what was the suspension for? If it was for drugs? Is this just suspicion.. or a failed test, if a failed test? No way he could still be competing
He had a surgery, got a bunch of pain pills for it. He sold some of them to his teammates, then ratted on them when they were all caught. He then transferred home to a D3 school where he now competes way above his level and I guess cries non-stop about how mean people are to him on LR, because he is obviously the victim here. Poor baby!
Speaking of Rowan, they're got a freshman jumping 25' in the LJ and another freshman high-jumping 7'?
Yeah, OK. I'm sure both of those kids are completely and 100% paying their way to attend Rowan of all places. No way are they giving out money under the guise of academic aid; no way!
He is in any way suspect, any further..what was the suspension for? If it was for drugs? Is this just suspicion.. or a failed test, if a failed test? No way he could still be competing
He had a surgery, got a bunch of pain pills for it. He sold some of them to his teammates, then ratted on them when they were all caught. He then transferred home to a D3 school where he now competes way above his level and I guess cries non-stop about how mean people are to him on LR, because he is obviously the victim here. Poor baby!
I’m not sure what exactly was the suspension, but most of the rumors were doping and he had pretty suspicious improvement. Most D3 fans aren’t big on D1 dopers ruining the division where kids do it for the love of running/competing.
Impressive run by Seth running a sub four minute mile probably equal to round 339 to 341 for 1500 and he recently ran 7:54 for 3000 indoors so he's reached a new level and good for him even though there are some people who view his performances as negatively for whatever reason. At Iowa State he was like a 4:10 type miler so he's reached a completely new different level and he's (probably ) as clean as a whistle most likely having been tested since the debacle at Iowa State.
Let this dude, S.C. get on with his running career. He's faced a lot of stress.
Thank you.
Mind you he didn’t have to give his former teammates meds that were banned in the NCAA it was his choice.
Just because he’s clean now doesn’t been he was clean then. The effects of EPO and blood doping don’t just magically go away. It’s very frustrating to see this as he’s still likely benefiting from whatever he was on in the past. I ran a 4:10 mile in college, would’ve loved a free extra 10 seconds but I and most college runners in the country have more integrity than that. If I was a top D3 guy in the NCAA right now I’d be extremely frustrated.
He has never tested positive. He has never been suspended. A few D3 guys don't like that he transferred so they are trying to tarnish his reputation.
Seth Clevenger has reached a new level and he's not yet at the very top national level, with Wolfe, Blanks, Fisher, Young, Hocker, Teare and co but with that sub-four minute mile it will enable him to reach a new level in outdoor track as well and I'm predicting possible times of the following in the outdoor 2026 track season.
1500: 3:38.00-3:39.00
3000: 7:40.00-7:45.00
5000: 13:18.00-13:25.00
10,000: 27:49.00-28:20.00
Dude has reached a new level. He deserves kudos.
Rowan coach is doing a great job.
For the naysayers let's recognize that Seth's progress has been outstanding in the last few weeks and we don't yet know his ceiling but it looks very high.