A Ruthe 1500m progression comparison to the other prodigies; Ingebrigtsen, Laros, Myers

Being 8 seconds faster than Jakob at age 16 is just inconceivable.

I appreciate improvement isn't linear but there is every reason to think he could run sub-3:30 this year. Would I bet on it? No. But I definitely wouldn't bet against it either.

Ruthe is insanely talented. I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes an all-time great and breaks one or more world records. But I wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't happen, or that he progress slows down a bit in the next couple of seasons (still breaking 3:30 in his late teens) It's impossible to tell, but he will be really exciting to follow.

Giant leaps over just one year happens to distance athletes. Jakob did a massive jump from 17 (turning 18 that year) to 18 (turning 19 later that year) with 8.74 seconds (from 3:39.92 to 3:31.18), and then improving with "only" 1.02 seconds the next year.

Myers was well ahead of Jakob and Laros the year he turned 17 (3:33.26 vs 3:39.92 and 3:39.46), to all the sudden being behind both of them one year later 3:33.30 vs 3:31.18 and 3:31.25) So he actually ran slightly slower that season. And then the next season he ran 3:29.80.

My point is that it' impossible to predict, and the athletes you compare athlete X to might catch up one or two year later. Their curve usually flatten after doing some crazy progression for some time. But things are looking really promising for Ruthe. It would be really cool to see him compete in world indoors, The Commonwealth Games and a couple of DL races this season

(English is not my first language, I hope I explained things/articulated myself well enough)

Myers ran 3:29 at 18.

I’m afraid he didn’t. The world age 18 record is held by Jakob at 3:30.16.

Myers ran 3.29.8 on 20th June 2025. Eleven days after his 19th birthday.

No one in that list gets near Ruthe's 17 secs jump from 15 to 16. And they were all prodigies. Nothing in this sport surprises now.

To say that you’re jaded would be an understatement. Advancement in performance is not just intrinsically related to PED use. The sport has moved on. The lad is only 16, I don’t think he has rationalised that he needs to cheat this early in his career. Have some hope.

That 1500m time for Ruthe is converted from his mile time and therefore not legit as a comparison. Then factor in BU bounce, super spikes and bicarb, a direct comparison is difficult to make.

I'm sure if Jakob ran at BU, with super spikes and bicarb, he also would have improved on his times from his era as a 16 year old.

Very dangerous to be on drugs at such young ages (if they are) . It may not matter now,when theyre young,but later on,it'll come back to bite.Look at the east germans.

Did any of the others race in world class fields at 16?

If everybody on peds, then Armstrong's argument about certain prodigies running fast times proving THEY are on peds is irrelevant.

The trolls claiming that EVERYBODY is on peds (even 16 year olds) is just a way of belittling the confirmed rampant doping in Kenya and Africa. (I know in ArmstrongLiv's case he has a psychological need to accuse anybody faster than Snell of doping).

now this is a real problem ... Isn't it?
Lord Coe leading one of the most failing organizations in the world.
Just look at the threads of this forum and their levels.

Anyone who knows the first thing about the Ruthes would know that they aren't anywhere near touching PEDs.

Only ones deranged on this topic are cooked boomers interviewing their keyboards.

Yeah but he did run a 3:47.48 mile at 18 which should have been mentioned.

A matter of only a few weeks ago he was near equalling Jazy's former world mark. He is now in the same territory as Coe and Ovett's world records 15 years later - a five second improvement in around a month. The sport has moved on over many decades but accomplishing the same in only a matter of weeks as a 16 year old strains the bounds of credulity. He is 8 seconds faster than Ingebrigtsen was at the same age. Ingebrigtsen, a former teen prodigy, is of this era. So how is this plausible?

Then you're a fan of a doped sport. Cheating doesn't bother you.

Tiresome. You’re a strange person.