I know it’s December so not everyone’s in their best fitness, but how is he destroying Kessler, Nuguse, and Beamish in a mile just a week after setting a 600m world record?
I know it’s December so not everyone’s in their best fitness, but how is he destroying Kessler, Nuguse, and Beamish in a mile just a week after setting a 600m world record?
Because those other guys learnt from last season that being in race fitness 10 months of the year isn't a smart thing.
Josh Hoey just parted ways with his coach and one of the primary drivers of that decision was his coach wanting to dial back on the year-round intensity.
I think that should explain why and how Hoey ran sub 73 for 600m last week and beat those guys today.
I know it’s December so not everyone’s in their best fitness, but how is he destroying Kessler, Nuguse, and Beamish in a mile just a week after setting a 600m world record?
Because he's planning to burn out even harder than last year outdoors while Brazier and Lutkenhaus will benefit from a staged preparation for outdoors that is less of an injury and exhaustion risk. Legends are not made at World indoors or road miles in December.
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I know it’s December so not everyone’s in their best fitness, but how is he destroying Kessler, Nuguse, and Beamish in a mile just a week after setting a 600m world record?
Because it's December, not US Outdoor Championships.
I know it’s December so not everyone’s in their best fitness, but how is he destroying Kessler, Nuguse, and Beamish in a mile just a week after setting a 600m world record?
Honestly, I'm not sure how much a 600m wr effort fatigues you, And with Hoey's mindset, he probably sees it as just another workout recovery-wise.
The real answer though is Hoey is trying to have a high-level of fitness now, and maintain it indefinitely. He's just more fit than the others, who are just starting to build for an indoor season (or possibly even the outdoor season).
Most elites at this mile see it as a nice opportunity to go to Hawaii and maybe an early season fitness check. The race announcers more or less acknowledge this, and they just appreciate that an elite field wants to show up for their December outdoor mile that serves as an opener for the marathon main event.
I know it’s December so not everyone’s in their best fitness, but how is he destroying Kessler, Nuguse, and Beamish in a mile just a week after setting a 600m world record?
Because he's planning to burn out even harder than last year outdoors while Brazier and Lutkenhaus will benefit from a staged preparation for outdoors that is less of an injury and exhaustion risk. Legends are not made at World indoors or road miles in December.
Fair point, but outdoors will be a weird year this year. No world championships. With ultimate championships, there will be something to shoot for when it comes to the top-elites, but many runners will be spectators for that event. Cooper didn't do great at world's. He's 16 and way exceeded expectations, so no harm there, but it's not a guarantee he'd be making it to the ultimate championships. Maybe a few more people go all-in on indoors? Maybe some just get some good racing in and are looking to 2027 when it comes to planning their peaks.
Because he's planning to burn out even harder than last year outdoors while Brazier and Lutkenhaus will benefit from a staged preparation for outdoors that is less of an injury and exhaustion risk. Legends are not made at World indoors or road miles in December.
Fair point, but outdoors will be a weird year this year. No world championships. With ultimate championships, there will be something to shoot for when it comes to the top-elites, but many runners will be spectators for that event. Cooper didn't do great at world's. He's 16 and way exceeded expectations, so no harm there, but it's not a guarantee he'd be making it to the ultimate championships. Maybe a few more people go all-in on indoors? Maybe some just get some good racing in and are looking to 2027 when it comes to planning their peaks.
Cooper didn't do great at Worlds because his HS season was long and he had no idea he was going to worlds, which made his season incredibly long out of the blue. Similar to Brazier's season, where he won nationals off of raw talent and very little base. They will be way more prepared this season, assuming they've maintaned their health.
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Fair point, but outdoors will be a weird year this year. No world championships. With ultimate championships, there will be something to shoot for when it comes to the top-elites, but many runners will be spectators for that event. Cooper didn't do great at world's. He's 16 and way exceeded expectations, so no harm there, but it's not a guarantee he'd be making it to the ultimate championships. Maybe a few more people go all-in on indoors? Maybe some just get some good racing in and are looking to 2027 when it comes to planning their peaks.
Cooper didn't do great at Worlds because his HS season was long and he had no idea he was going to worlds, which made his season incredibly long out of the blue. Similar to Brazier's season, where he won nationals off of raw talent and very little base. They will be way more prepared this season, assuming they've maintaned their health.
But prepared for what? Is cooper really ready to go after a top 16 world ranking to get into the ultimate championships? I'm not saying I don't think Cooper couldn't put in another great showing at USAs, but that's not the path to the world championships next year. Is anyone going to try to peak for the USA championships, and how many even go? It's not the same stakes as a WC or Olympic year.
All I'm saying is the Ultimate Championships will force a different look than the standard WC year. Lots of people going for rankings, maybe a more competitive DL final. And with only 16 spots, some athletes (like Cooper) may just decide that it's a good development year for outdoors, but not a championship year.
I know it’s December so not everyone’s in their best fitness, but how is he destroying Kessler, Nuguse, and Beamish in a mile just a week after setting a 600m world record?
Because it's December, not US Outdoor Championships.
I don’t care what time of the year it is, this is a crazy impressive week.
Cooper didn't do great at Worlds because his HS season was long and he had no idea he was going to worlds, which made his season incredibly long out of the blue. Similar to Brazier's season, where he won nationals off of raw talent and very little base. They will be way more prepared this season, assuming they've maintaned their health.
But prepared for what? Is cooper really ready to go after a top 16 world ranking to get into the ultimate championships? I'm not saying I don't think Cooper couldn't put in another great showing at USAs, but that's not the path to the world championships next year. Is anyone going to try to peak for the USA championships, and how many even go? It's not the same stakes as a WC or Olympic year.
All I'm saying is the Ultimate Championships will force a different look than the standard WC year. Lots of people going for rankings, maybe a more competitive DL final. And with only 16 spots, some athletes (like Cooper) may just decide that it's a good development year for outdoors, but not a championship year.
I think he will run USAs and Pre and he will probably go to Europe and run a few meets there. I'm sure he would like to run a PR in the 800. Like a lot of runners, he will race sparingly and use 2026 as a base for '27 and especially '28.
If he can improve half a second a year for three years he gets the world record in 2028.
1 Josh Hoey USA 3:55.1 2 Hobbs Kessler USA 3:56.6 3 Yared Nuguse USA 3:57.5 4 Festus Lagat KEN 3:58.1 5 Geordie Beamish AUS 3:58.4 6 Nico Young USA 3:58.6 7 Vince Ciattei USA 3:58.6 8 Donavan Brazier USA 3:59.1 9 Oliver Hoare AUS 3:59.7
But prepared for what? Is cooper really ready to go after a top 16 world ranking to get into the ultimate championships? I'm not saying I don't think Cooper couldn't put in another great showing at USAs, but that's not the path to the world championships next year. Is anyone going to try to peak for the USA championships, and how many even go? It's not the same stakes as a WC or Olympic year.
All I'm saying is the Ultimate Championships will force a different look than the standard WC year. Lots of people going for rankings, maybe a more competitive DL final. And with only 16 spots, some athletes (like Cooper) may just decide that it's a good development year for outdoors, but not a championship year.
I think he will run USAs and Pre and he will probably go to Europe and run a few meets there. I'm sure he would like to run a PR in the 800. Like a lot of runners, he will race sparingly and use 2026 as a base for '27 and especially '28.
If he can improve half a second a year for three years he gets the world record in 2028.
He will never get the world record in three years at his high intensity burn rate in insane training. Its all like gravity: What goes up must come down. He's going to hit a hard wall that will be humbling.
But prepared for what? Is cooper really ready to go after a top 16 world ranking to get into the ultimate championships? I'm not saying I don't think Cooper couldn't put in another great showing at USAs, but that's not the path to the world championships next year. Is anyone going to try to peak for the USA championships, and how many even go? It's not the same stakes as a WC or Olympic year.
All I'm saying is the Ultimate Championships will force a different look than the standard WC year. Lots of people going for rankings, maybe a more competitive DL final. And with only 16 spots, some athletes (like Cooper) may just decide that it's a good development year for outdoors, but not a championship year.
I think he will run USAs and Pre and he will probably go to Europe and run a few meets there. I'm sure he would like to run a PR in the 800. Like a lot of runners, he will race sparingly and use 2026 as a base for '27 and especially '28.
If he can improve half a second a year for three years he gets the world record in 2028.