Shock 1500m world champ Isaac Nader makes a shock decision - he's leaving his coach. Will he switch toTomasz Lewandowski?

Will Isaac Nader secure his first cross country medal at #Lagoa2025?

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Keeping an eye on his progression this year.

Did he get screwed for 12 months wining a single race?

I already forgot about Nader. If someone asked me who won the 1500 before reading this thread, I don’t think I ever would have gotten it. Maybe his last name eventually but zero chance his fist

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Isaac NADER, Portugal - 1500 Metres, 800 Metres, Mile, 800 Metres Short Track, 1500 Metres Short Track, Mile Short Track, 10 Kilometres Road, 3000 Metres

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nader has nearly the exact same profile as hoey, stuck at 147 in the 800 up to mid late 20's, and same 10 to 20 second jump in the 1500 in late 20''s.

this is the super blatant drug profile. completely unnatural development curve.

You are comparing Portugal to USA?

In Portugal they only care about Football (and they are pretty good in the latest years) and Nader nephew of a illustrious soccer goal scorer opted for running just for "experimentation". There was nothing planed from the young, nothing like the bad examples like Niels Laros boosted by your posts and that ended disappointing.

Complete nonsense comparison. Nader is more like a Wightman or Nuguse. Nader was a decent youth athlete but his results picked up around age 20. His jump was his age 23 season when he went from national level to 3:31/world final. He’s progressed steadily after that big jump. Hoey was awesome in HS and then stagnated for 5 years as a pro. The first improvement year he was a 1:43-high guy, now he’s down to 1:42-flat. Naders only stagnant year was 2022 but if you look deeper he ran mostly championship races or slow circuit races after improvement indoors. He might be doping and his coach/agent were with Cacho I believe. Granted Spain had a special doctor by all accounts. His progression is pretty normal to me though.

my bad a bit, and thoughts leader, ya, podium poster.

had this fellow confused nader with another athlete of age 32, bad i didn't check naders age and assumed wrongly,

nader had 21 22 23 years of age 800m at 147, 146 147, peak years, but if he was running that sporadically, it does not mean squat.

in the 15 he went 21 22 23 years of age 339 337 336.

do there you have it. fact check below.

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Isaac NADER, Portugal - 1500 Metres, 800 Metres, Mile, 800 Metres Short Track, 1500 Metres Short Track, Mile Short Track, 10 Kilometres Road, 3000 Metres

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now hoey being a great high schooler, fine and dandy. i got no math to take it from there.

that's all i got. from 336 in peak years to world champ, certainly 26 is prime years too, but you show the goods, a bit, along the way.

profile is very sus, spain is very sus, if you follow spain at all for like forever. el katir, el morocco. el etc.

Yeah, no question his coach/agent go back to Spain's state-sponsored days. It's not too different than Habz (who has 2 coaches with one being a coach of Makh-Daddy). Nader if you want to give the benefit of doubt — did the coach actually participate in doping athletes? I think a lot of the investigations/revelations on Spanish doping had a "doping doctor" who handled these things. Ditto Makh-Daddy's old coach, would he be involved with doping if the athlete had been under Aden for years and knew very well how to do a doping program etc.? You can say maybe they were well aware or had to be, but also a question if that means it's something they push or just something that was the way of the world and they didn't ask questions about (plausible deniability, and maintaining boundaries).
Nader himself a good athlete, but not with physical attributes that make him too much of an outlier. Worlds was his best ever race, but the most impressive aspect of his race was the extreme patience to hold back as long as he did. We saw Reynold and Timothy and have seen Cole Hocker and Jake Wightman in the past run last 100 meters at this speed (or close). But Hocker got DQ'ed, Reynold didn't have his best finish, Jake made his bid early, and Tim did a lot of work in the race from the front.

I heard Nader is going to Bobby Kersee. Kersee always wanted a 1500m runner on his team.........

Spain may be cleaner than your a**

As for Morocco "bazzaf 3lik"

Morocco is the only country outside East Africa that beat Marathon records and doubled titles on it.

We dont play the lazy game of countires without "fond de jeux"

"The Mile is the heart of all distances"

that's the first sign of countries without middle/long distances foundations

France

USA

GBR

NL

... etc

Send my greeting to your friend the disillusioned miler Laros.

Or will he switch to the magical wizard coach js? I hope so. Js is great improving runners fast.

Keep track first at cleaning your behind. It could be very, I have unpleasant smell (stink) from far. It has names flo-jo, Marion Jones, Michael Johnson ... etc and those are really big thieves because millions of dollars of sponsors are incolved.

Now you are envying a poor (mostly inculte) immigrant looking for some food in Spain ... aren't you ashamed?

Morocco is currently in the category A of AIU (update your dirty book).

Its logical that the country is in jealousy by the poor "nether lands" who at best can swim.

Revise your history. It stop at 1970 and behind that you only have nostalgia of past and old monuments.

I don't think coach JS has any plans to coach Nader, the Portuguese ace, but if Nader requested the genial Swede's advice - I'm sure he would receive it. There would actually be some logic in coach JS assisting Nader because coach JS frequently goes to Portugal on vacation. Coach JS even has some Portuguese language in his repertoire although I must say Nader's English is pretty decent as well.

Fun factoid - Portuguese people have a very high level of English compared to neighbors like Spain, and the main reason linguists think that this is the case is because in Portugal anything in English on the television is not dubbed but rather subtitled so from a young age youngsters in Portugal are exposed to the English language 24/7. The Portuguese are way ahead of the Spanish, French and Italians in English language usage in general. Very impressive.

this topic isnt about this country against that, not from here.

i like legit rono and bayi, jaw dropping talents, who ran nowhere close to their potential,and chinese hurdler who set Wr etc, and white guys that can sprint , though maybe clean ones are few and far between.

today the huge ped hot spots, are africa, india, ncaa, and an american on the el katir sauce plus probably speedzpeptides.

the morocco / spain / france thing is ingrained since post coe era.

and sidney, with her jaw growing in abundance in later youth, thats super circunstantial, where you never see that in nature, do you?

to police this, you need budgets for testing / litigation, greater than the spirt brings in.

anyone ever done the math? and a study of new peds? toward a legit finance model.

basically we are looking at eliminating gross cheating. like someobe juicing to the gills and running a 209 matathon, off 218 talent AT BEST.

hence making a mockery of the sport.

some fine american gals are lejit in breaking 15 min for 5 k, then pn the boards, the peanut gallery dump on the prrformance, compare with the hollugans, and bearded ladies with the 4 min mile BS.

and clean 15 min 5 k lady should get accolades, not slagging.

that was a grammar fiasco deluxe, manycpardons, hate cell keyboard.iswhatitis.

Isaac Nader leads Portugal to the podium at the European Mixed Cross Country Relay Championships.

The athlete led the Portuguese team from fifth to second place in the race held in Lagos. Italy retained the title for the third time.

Portugal was crowned European vice-champion in the mixed cross-country relay this Sunday in Lagoa, where Italy retained the continental title, which it won for the third time.
Isaac Nader, the world champion in the 1500 meters, took the final leg, leading the Portuguese team from fifth to second place in 17 minutes and 16 seconds, four seconds behind the Italians (17 minutes and 12 seconds), while the United Kingdom finished in third place (17 minutes and 17 seconds).
The national relay team, which also included Salomé Afonso, European indoor vice-champion in the 1,500 meters and bronze medalist in the 3,000, Rodrigo Lima and Patrícia Silva, bronze medalists in the 800 short track in Apeldoorn 2025, marked the first Portuguese medal appearance in this event, which has only been held since 2017, bringing the total number of Portuguese medals to 60 in 31 editions of the European Cross Country Championships.

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Isaac Nader leva Portugal ao pódio do Europeu de estafetas mistas de crosse

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Atleta levou a equipa portuguesa do quinto ao segundo lugar da prova realizada em Lagos. Itália revalidou o título pela terceira vez

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